Honestly the whole hyperbole ladened viewpoint of some of you PVP guys is hilarious to behold. 'my god, it can't be a cutthroat galaxy with a karma and/or c&p system in place, any said system is going to kill all PVP', seriously, it is only you guys coming out with this nonsense, it's almost as if you have an agenda or something. Guess what, consequences AND a cutthroat galaxy with PVP are not mutually exclusive things, if, (yes it's a big if), Frontier get this right these things can coexist.
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So what? Are you saying that you're completely unaware of any kind of conflict between humans from the same nation, race, religion or political ideology? Should read a few history books sometime, you'll find them enlightening. People have been attacking and killing other people since the dawn of time for all manner of reasons. Membership of a club doesn't count for squat. People who drive cars in the UK are all "members" of the DVLA "faction", but they still honk at each other, swear at each other, beat each other up and even stab each other.
Robert Maynard
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.... quickly followed by getting arrested, receiving points on their driving licence, being banned from driving, jailed, made to resit their driving test, facing increased insurance premiums, etc.
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Goose4291
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Repeat offenders typically get harsher penalties than first time ones too... ergo the rationale for an automated PvP moderation system (e.g. the proposed karma system).
Robert Maynard
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From what one Dev has said, Frontier would seem to be well aware that the majority of players do not get involved in PvP.
.... yet Frontier themselves would seem to be considering implementing a karma system to deal with particular player behaviours that they consider to be detrimental to the health of the game.
Doesn't have an argument.
Uses a meme.
Just close this thread. It's just a medium for lesser lights who are set on disrupting any kind of debate now.
Uses a meme.
Just close this thread. It's just a medium for lesser lights who are set on disrupting any kind of debate now.
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Not disputing that, assuming they get caught, but to pretend that the pilots federation is some kind of fluffy bunny club where everybody gets along and the pilots never exchange anything other than kind words and cuddles is just nonsense.
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Robert Maynard
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As is their prerogative - every player can choose which game mode to play in on a session-by-session basis.
Some, due to their experiences in Open, may choose not to return there.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
That rather depends on whether its management wakes up and starts dealing with internecine conflict, doesn't it?
... and the consequences would not stop hostilities between members. They may, however, make a player think twice about engaging in a particular behaviour again.
Apologies oh exalted one, terribly sorry to inconvenience your majestic worshipfulness with our sour opinions.
Yeah very good, trouble is you keep forgetting the 'PVP'er keeps claiming it's a cutthroat galaxy but doesn't want it to get too cutthroat for him/her with the introduction of consequences' meme
I'm not saying there shouldn't be some form of reputation system that gives players reason to think about their actions and how they might be affected by the consequences of them. I'm all for it. It will finally bring some actual, real depth to the game instead of every action being mindless and requiring little to no thought whatsoever. It just seems that a few people have taken the proposed implementation of the karma system as a statement from FD that they won't tolerate non consensual PvP and that's just not the case. At least, I hope that's not the case, it would make for a very dull universe if it were.
You posted arguments, not aimed at you. Forum rules prevent me specifying.
If the shoe doesn't fit ...
Goose4291
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The difference being, if we continue the terrible analogy, that its not the police (ingame mechanics) punishing the driver, its god plucking them up and casting them into hell.