Engineered AX Weapons for Everyone!

LMAOCanda · Oct 29, 2021

A Modded Plasma Charger.
This is equivalent to class 2 efficient PA in term of burst damage except that it has 3x shot speed

here_it_comes · Oct 30, 2021

So now we have a Class 2 Plasma Charger that is just better than the Class 3 Plasma Charger. Lol. I don't really care about the velocity, how one can miss Interceptors with Plasma is beyond me, but better damage and armor piercing? RIP Class 3.

tolm · Oct 30, 2021

How are those updates plasmas against hoomans? Seems like it could be a good all rounder?

Also … how do I get ‘em?

LMAOCanda · Oct 30, 2021

Is the offer one time thing? Or are they always available?

Tividar · Oct 30, 2021

LMAOCanda said:
Need guardian weapon blueprint to get one?

[PS5] tolm said:
How are those updates plasmas against hoomans? Seems like it could be a good all rounder?

Also … how do I get ‘em?

You need a Guardian weapon blueprint for each weapon you want (plus other bits)

Spacerschoice-00 said:
Modified Plasma charger requires

Size 2
3 guardian power conduit
3 Guardian Sentinel weapon parts.
2 Arsenic
1 weapon blueprint.
1 power transfer bus

Size 1
2 guardian powercell.
2 Guardian technology component (This is the reason for more expensive)
1 guardian weapon blueprint
1 Arsenic

Based on stats, I'd say it ought to be a fairly solid all rounder. I'm one-shotting scouts at 1000m pretty reliably (so faster shot speed is definitely making a difference).

Modified 2C Plasma Charger should do something like 5 x 17 x 1.66% x 50% (Absolute) = 70 damage on a full charge vs.
Efficient 2C Plasma Accelerator does something like 67 split 60% Absolute / 20 Thermal & Kinetic. After resistances that should be noticeably less than the PC.

They're power hunger, but relatively cool and ammo efficient.

Kzak · Oct 30, 2021

Thanks for the information, people. I'll see if I can get myself a couple of the plasma chargers, as they seem to be good alternatives to the plasma accelerators.

EDIT: Bought four of the 2B ones, should be enough.

Kzak · Oct 30, 2021

[VR] Orodruin said:
That's more than double damage on anything above Cyclops compared to regular plasma chargers. The shot speed makes it significantly easier to aim and since it is fire on release and not a delay as for gauss cannons some may find it easier to use. I assume that the range values are left unchanged (1000/3000 m for falloff start and max range), which means quite some penalty for not keeping within 1000 m rather than the 1500 m of gauss. Also remains to be seen how they are for sniping hearts.

Correct: Stats for the 2B Guardian Plasma Charger that can be bought at Merope:

Class: 2
Rating: B
Integrity: 42
Mass: 4.00 T
Power Draw: 2.82 MW
Boot time: 0 s
Damage: 4.6
Charge time: 1.8 s
Damage multiplier: 17.0
Distributor draw: 1.25 MW
Thermal Load: 7.8
Amour Piercing: 110
Maximum Range: 3,000 M
Shot Speed: 6,000 M/S
Rate of fire: 5.0 /s
Ammo clip size: 20
Ammo maximum: 200
Reload time: 3.0 s
Breach damage: 1.1
Min breach chance: 50%
Max breach chance: 80%
Damage type: Absolute (main damage type)
Damage falloff start: 1,000 M.

tolm · Oct 30, 2021

Tividar said:
You need a Guardian weapon blueprint for each weapon you want (plus other bits)

Based on stats, I'd say it ought to be a fairly solid all rounder. I'm one-shotting scouts at 1000m pretty reliably (so faster shot speed is definitely making a difference).

Modified 2C Plasma Charger should do something like 5 x 17 x 1.66% x 50% (Absolute) = 70 damage on a full charge vs.
Efficient 2C Plasma Accelerator does something like 67 split 60% Absolute / 20 Thermal & Kinetic. After resistances that should be noticeably less than the PC.

They're power hunger, but relatively cool and ammo efficient.

Thanks! Dunno how I missed that … looks like I’ll be hitting the Guardian sites again soon!

[VR] Orodruin · Oct 30, 2021

There seems to be a bug with premium ammo on the hammer gauss cannons. Instead of increasing the damage by 30%, it seems to increase damage by 120%, ie, 30% of the (unintended) damage they had on release ...
@sallymorganmoore Something to investigate?

TrollhunterX · Oct 30, 2021

Another 'Do'h!' moment for me. I travelled to Bright Sentinel yesterday and saw no Guardian weapons in Outfitting. It's onl y hit me now that I should have clicked 'Contacts', and 'Guardian Broker'...

Rat Catcher · Oct 30, 2021

TrollhunterX said:
Another 'Do'h!' moment for me. I travelled to Bright Sentinel yesterday and saw no Guardian weapons in Outfitting. It's onl y hit me now that I should have clicked 'Contacts', and 'Guardian Broker'...

Could be worse... How many times I've gone looking for Guardian Shield Reinforcement modules.... Not thinking to look in Hull Reinforcements...
(Funnier as on 1 account they weren't unlocked... That was embarrasing!)

TrollhunterX · Oct 30, 2021

Well, I'm back now, and it turns out I need articulation motors.

Hey, I don't remember that wreckage last time. Several Imperial ships, including two of those big... what do they call them? Interceptors? Interlocuters? Floating in some kind of green mist...

Kzak · Oct 30, 2021

TrollhunterX said:
Well, I'm back now, and it turns out I need articulation motors.

Hey, I don't remember that wreckage last time. Several Imperial ships, including two of those big... what do they call them? Interceptors? Interlocuters? Floating in some kind of green mist...

Interdictors, probably? The green mist sounds like Thargoid corrosive effects.

Jupeter · Oct 30, 2021

Just purchased 2 modified 2b Plasma chargers and 2 modified 2b Gauss Canons from Salvation. Installed them on ship tested ok.
Docked at my carrier and stored them and swapped ship.
Went off to kill Thargoid and returned to Carrier, tried to install the 2 chargers and gauss but they not in storage only 1 plasma charger.
I am missing 1 AX turret, 2 modified gauss cannons and 1 modified plasma charger.

TrollhunterX · Oct 31, 2021

Kzak said:
Interdictors, probably? The green mist sounds like Thargoid corrosive effects.

Yep, the Interdictor.

Damn, I just wasted the last bit of cartography from the journey from Colonia. Should've sold it off before poking flotsam Thargoids wanted. Merope seems to be heating up, with scouts and various 'unknown' (I'm not investing in a Xeno scanner).

galahad2069 · Oct 31, 2021

[VR] Orodruin said:
That's more than double damage on anything above Cyclops compared to regular plasma chargers. The shot speed makes it significantly easier to aim and since it is fire on release and not a delay as for gauss cannons some may find it easier to use. I assume that the range values are left unchanged (1000/3000 m for falloff start and max range), which means quite some penalty for not keeping within 1000 m rather than the 1500 m of gauss. Also remains to be seen how they are for sniping hearts.

It's pretty easy to snipe hearts with the new plasma chargers, as long as you can target the module (i.e. you have a Xeno scanner).

Also it's a pretty interesting weapon against human ships as well (it's more like a new variant of SRB rails than PA's).

So far it seems to be a funny and somewhat viable weapon both in AX and in PvP, but it's not better than regular Gauss cannons or SRB rails.

Sensei Jacksama · Oct 31, 2021

galahad2069 said:
It's pretty easy to snipe hearts with the new plasma chargers, as long as you can target the module (i.e. you have a Xeno scanner).

Also it's a pretty interesting weapon against human ships as well (it's more like a new variant of SRB rails than PA's).

So far it seems to be a funny and somewhat viable weapon both in AX and in PvP, but it's not better than regular Gauss cannons or SRB rails.

I really like the heat output. The few times I've used it in battle I've never overheated. I'm going to attempt to use a thermal vent turreted beam to see if its possible to maintain a low heat while firing.

CMDR The Riz · Oct 31, 2021

galahad2069 said:
So far it seems to be a funny and somewhat viable weapon both in AX and in PvP, but it's not better than regular Gauss cannons or SRB rails.

My meta shall dawn at last.

RIP my Distributor

I'm on my way to grab a full compliment of the modified Plasma Chargers and Gauss Cannons in both sizes. Can't wait to test them out - I've been waiting for the Plasma Charger to be a viable weapon for years.

S0rkvild · Oct 31, 2021