Exhibit VS. Habitat: let's vote

yoav_r

yoav_r
===READ THE INTRO BEFORE VOTING===

"All animals should be habitat animals, the exhibits are just pretty boxes" - me, before writing this post.

BUT, thinking about something @Bearcat9948 said about the alligator snapping turtle. There are a lot of animals which are large enough for habitats, but realistically would need to move maybe once an in-game year to look convincing. An animal that works the other way currently is the Koala,which is constantly running around, breaking immersion.

Another thing is tiny mammals, especially climbing ones. The game doesn't have the tiny pieces required for building climbing structures for Tamarins, for example.

So, with this in mind, would you prefer habitat or exhibit for the followin species (assume larger exhibits could be added for larger species). Bold your vote:
  1. Alligator snapping turle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  2. Chinese giant salamander (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  3. Green anaconda (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  4. Reticulated python (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  5. King Cobra (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  6. Radiated tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  7. African spurred tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  8. Chinese softshell turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  9. New guinea snake-necked turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  10. Argentine giant tegu (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  11. Frill-necked lizard (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  12. Two-toed sloth (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  13. Slow loris (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  14. Golden lion tamarin (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  15. Senegal galago (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  16. Red squirrel (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  17. European hedgehog (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
If you suggest more species I'll add them
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
  1. Alligator snapping turle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  2. Chinese giant salamander (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  3. Green anaconda (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  4. Reticulated python (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  5. King Cobra (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  6. Radiated tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  7. African spurred tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  8. Chinese softshell turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  9. New guinea snake-necked turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  10. Argentine giant tegu (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  11. Frill-necked lizard (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  12. Two-toed sloth (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  13. Slow loris (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  14. Golden lion tamarin (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  15. Senegal galago (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  16. Red squirrel (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  17. European hedgehog (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
  1. Alligator snapping turle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  2. Chinese giant salamander (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  3. Green anaconda (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  4. Reticulated python (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  5. King Cobra (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  6. Radiated tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  7. African spurred tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  8. Chinese softshell turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  9. New guinea snake-necked turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  10. Argentine giant tegu (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  11. Frill-necked lizard (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  12. Two-toed sloth (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  13. Slow loris (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  14. Golden lion tamarin (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  15. Senegal galago (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  16. Red squirrel (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  17. European hedgehog (Exhibit vs. Habitat)

I see all the mammals being classic habitats. But, I can also see a unique style enclosure that can be half habitat half exhibit? Perfect for small monkeys and maybe birds
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
darthquell said:
  1. Alligator snapping turle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  2. Chinese giant salamander (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  3. Green anaconda (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  4. Reticulated python (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  5. King Cobra (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  6. Radiated tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  7. African spurred tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  8. Chinese softshell turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  9. New guinea snake-necked turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  10. Argentine giant tegu (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  11. Frill-necked lizard (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  12. Two-toed sloth (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  13. Slow loris (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  14. Golden lion tamarin (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  15. Senegal galago (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  16. Red squirrel (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  17. European hedgehog (Exhibit vs. Habitat)

I see all the mammals being classic habitats. But, I can also see a unique style enclosure that can be half habitat half exhibit? Perfect for small monkeys and maybe birds
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Something like the habitats they put in ZT3? (may the gods forgive me for bringing this up)
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
darthquell said:
I've never played that before, so I don't know
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The habitats were premade like the exhibits in PZ, but they were actual habitats with animal traversing them. This allowed for far smoother and lifelike animations than even what PZ has, because the animals mooved on preset paths. This type of premade habitat could work well for things like tamarins and sloths, which require complex but tiny climbing infrastructure.
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
yoav_r said:
The habitats were premade like the exhibits in PZ, but they were actual habitats with animal traversing them. This allowed for far smoother and lifelike animations than even what PZ has, because the animals mooved on preset paths. This type of premade habitat could work well for things like tamarins and sloths, which require complex but tiny climbing infrastructure.
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Well, hoping that we get a small exhibit update that can add new sizes and maybe these premade, mini habitats for smaller species (maybe they can make them semi-customizable like the small exhibits?)
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
darthquell said:
Well, hoping that we get a small exhibit update that can add new sizes and maybe these premade, mini habitats for smaller species (maybe they can make them semi-customizable like the small exhibits?)
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I'd actually suggest watching some gameplay of ZT3, because while that game was very flawed, it could giv esome inspiration and ideas for stuff to improve/add in PZ
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
yoav_r said:
I'd actually suggest watching some gameplay of ZT3, because while that game was very flawed, it could giv esome inspiration and ideas for stuff to improve/add in PZ
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Here's the irony: I have it on the Xbox, I just haven't really played it. Maybe I will later on. I heard that it's actually not that bad by itself; it's practically a zookeeper simulator. But comparing it to the zoo management games of Zoo Tycoon 1 & 2 (and now PZ), it's not fun
 

peafowl

P
My issue with exhibits is that they are so, SO constrained. One size. No way of decorating or landscaping them like you wish. No way of mixing species.
I don't think i mind the fact that they dont move around like habitat animals, cause thats just natural for them. But i really dislike how they're all, no exception, so stale and predictable.
Coding specific plants, trees, rocks, water and other items for them could be a way to go. Making a minimum of X items for them to be able to be housed. They could be placed in a normal habitat but the animals would spawn only on those items. A python would rest on its tailored rocks or in water, a squirrel would climb around a tree, then later be sitting on another, and so on.
Imagine a nice centerpiece in your park of a pond with frogs and turtles, or a walk in habitat with squirrel and normal habitat animals. It would just be an amazing gamechanger.
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
darthquell said:
Here's the irony: I have it on the Xbox, I just haven't really played it. Maybe I will later on. I heard that it's actually not that bad by itself; it's practically a zookeeper simulator. But comparing it to the zoo management games of Zoo Tycoon 1 & 2 (and now PZ), it's not fun
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I never played it, but I watched some playthroughs and followed its communti when I considered buying it. As far as I understand it had 4 major probelms:
  1. No management
  2. No customization at all, everything premade, even the paths connect automatically.
  3. The map had an invisible unmentioned limit of ~30 species, which most players discovered only after buying the game
  4. Very small variety in species, and a ton of reskins (they had more than 5 subspecies of lion, tiger, brown bear...)
The conclusion seemed to be it was a cashgrab.
 

Antmar97

Antmar97
yoav_r said:
The conclusion seemed to be it was a cashgrab.
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This resume all, i played it on Pc and the most fun thing about this game is looking at the ZT logo on the cover.
No managment, no customization, only specific points in habitat that can be modified with prebuilt items, and there are a lot of recycled animals, a lot of clone subspecies and a lot of key animals missing from the game.
I think it's basically a child game that microsoft wanted to launch for the kinect, the only sense if the game is to observe animals mimic your movements thanks to the kinect, other than that, the community completely wants to forget about it.
 

Aramar

Aramar
  1. Alligator snapping turle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  2. Chinese giant salamander (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  3. Green anaconda (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  4. Reticulated python (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  5. King Cobra (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  6. Radiated tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  7. African spurred tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  8. Chinese softshell turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  9. New guinea snake-necked turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  10. Argentine giant tegu (Exhibit vs. Habitat). I don't know.
  11. Frill-necked lizard (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  12. Two-toed sloth (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  13. Slow loris (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  14. Golden lion tamarin (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  15. Senegal galago (Exhibit vs. Habitat) I don't know
  16. Red squirrel (Exhibit vs. Habitat). Do zoos have red squirrels?
  17. European hedgehog (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
Aramar said:
  1. Alligator snapping turle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  2. Chinese giant salamander (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  3. Green anaconda (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  4. Reticulated python (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  5. King Cobra (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  6. Radiated tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  7. African spurred tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  8. Chinese softshell turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  9. New guinea snake-necked turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  10. Argentine giant tegu (Exhibit vs. Habitat). I don't know.
  11. Frill-necked lizard (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  12. Two-toed sloth (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  13. Slow loris (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  14. Golden lion tamarin (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  15. Senegal galago (Exhibit vs. Habitat) I don't know
  16. Red squirrel (Exhibit vs. Habitat). Do zoos have red squirrels?
  17. European hedgehog (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
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Outside of their native range, red squirrels are zoo animals. When I was 15 and visited the US I was so excited when I spotted a squirrel because I considered it "exotic fauna" (Israel doesn't have native squirrels). Later that day I discovered they are considered pests.
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
yoav_r said:
Outside of their native range, red squirrels are zoo animals. When I was 15 and visited the US I was so excited when I spotted a squirrel because I considered it "exotic fauna" (Israel doesn't have native squirrels). Later that day I discovered they are considered pests.
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Ugh, gray squirrels... Can't tell you how many problems we've had with them
 

GRAMPERS62

G
It really comes down to how much space a creature requires. Does the creature need more than a four meter cube? Does the animal need special things that are not available in a full habitat?
And could we convert an exhibit to be an aquarium for fish? Or even for birds?
 

paul78

paul78
Everything exhibit except the two tortoise species. To me the frilled dragon is too small and the sloth just seems best as a exhibit animal.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
I would like to see a lot of these in mini-habitat enclosures, kind of lot what the Zoo Tycoon of 5-8 years ago or so did. There were some animals that didn't have as much functionality but were still loose and had some. Granted, I think they took that to an extreme. But something like that for these would be great.

But as it is set up now?

  1. Alligator snapping turle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  2. Chinese giant salamander (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  3. Green anaconda (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  4. Reticulated python (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  5. King Cobra (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  6. Radiated tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  7. African spurred tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  8. Chinese softshell turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  9. New guinea snake-necked turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  10. Argentine giant tegu (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  11. Frill-necked lizard (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  12. Two-toed sloth (Exhibit vs. Habitat) - I know I'll take flack here, but they move so slowly, that whole animation will be an obstacle and better suited to an exhibit where they pop around.
  13. Slow loris (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  14. Golden lion tamarin (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  15. Senegal galago (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  16. Red squirrel (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  17. European hedgehog (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
 

KönigDerKaffeebohnen

K
  1. Alligator snapping turle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  2. Chinese giant salamander (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  3. Green anaconda (Exhibit vs. Habitat) (big snakes would be way to much work for being only realisticly containable in exhibits)
  4. Reticulated python (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  5. King Cobra (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  6. Radiated tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  7. African spurred tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  8. Chinese softshell turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat) (turtles depend on how much the aquarium parts will be. For example in an planet aquarium definetly habitat, but i would be fine with them being exhibits now)
  9. New guinea snake-necked turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  10. Argentine giant tegu (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  11. Frill-necked lizard (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  12. Two-toed sloth (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  13. Slow loris (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  14. Golden lion tamarin (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  15. Senegal galago (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  16. Red squirrel (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  17. European hedgehog (Exhibit vs. Habitat)

    I dont want any mammal that is bigger then the meerkat (our for now smallest animal) to be in an box, because most of them would not be seen in such rl. They are not typical vivarium animals, so they shouldnt be in game)
 

KönigDerKaffeebohnen

K
Aramar said:
  1. Alligator snapping turle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  2. Chinese giant salamander (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  3. Green anaconda (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  4. Reticulated python (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  5. King Cobra (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  6. Radiated tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  7. African spurred tortoise (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  8. Chinese softshell turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  9. New guinea snake-necked turtle (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  10. Argentine giant tegu (Exhibit vs. Habitat). I don't know.
  11. Frill-necked lizard (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  12. Two-toed sloth (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  13. Slow loris (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  14. Golden lion tamarin (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
  15. Senegal galago (Exhibit vs. Habitat) I don't know
  16. Red squirrel (Exhibit vs. Habitat). Do zoos have red squirrels?
  17. European hedgehog (Exhibit vs. Habitat)
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1. red squirrels are habitat animals

2. what did the poor slow lori deserve to be put in horny jail?
 
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