Fall DLC 2023 Speculation

Which actually leads me to a question: say you get unlimited roster slots to complete the roster for your country's wildlife. What do you pick?

I want to start of with a statement that as someone from Balkans I never had this much choice of local animals in a zoo game. So already, if we don't get any European animals till the end of support, it's already more than enough. But one never turns down unlimited slots, so if I wanted to make a zoo based entirely of Montenegro wildlife I'd need these:

1. Waterfowl

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It's becoming a bit of a cliché, but it can't be skipped, ponds, fountains and other water bound decorations look devoid of life without these birds. Speaking on local level I would only ask for Mute Swan and Mallard Duck. Those two alone would go a long way

Essential: Both

2. National Birds

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Not only are we missing Pelicans as whole species from the game, one of our 5 National Park has Dalmatian Pelicans for their symbol. They make our biggest lake their home. On top of that quite a few European zoos hold this exact species. It's the biggest pelican if I'm not mistaken, and it has this cool bold beak and pouch color and the ''feather hat'' on top.

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The second bird that is highly sought after as hunting trophy in our forests and mountains is Capercaillie or Wood Grouse. It's very elusive (unless it's mating season) and looks really ancient and cool. Makes this interesting sound with the beak to attract mates. And on top of that it doesn't need to fly. It can use peafowl animations.

Essential: At least 1

3. More little carnivores

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First two easy candidates would be Pine/Beech Marten and Wild Cat. Every zoo in vicinity has at least one of these, if not both. They're also really common wild animals in our country, and especially around my town. So much so that I saw both in wild on multiple occasions. The local carnivore list could be considered almost complete even without these two (Red Fox and Badger) but they would add some diversity to the picks. Secondary choices would be Eurasian Polecat, Egyptian Mongoose and Golden Jackal.

Essential: At least 2

4. Ungulates diversity picks


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The three most popular hunting trophies in Montenegro are Rabbit, Woodcoc k* and Wild Boar. Wild Boars are everywhere from Mountains to seaside. It's a number one Montenegrin wild animal if you're to ask rural folk who hunt for meat or trophies. On the other hand I'm yet to visit a zoo in Balkans that holds Wild Boars. Closest to seeing them in captivity is a fenced out part of hills near the entrance of town, where they breed Boars so they can use hunting hounds to train on them. So definitely would be needed to shake up ungulate choices, there's other fires to put out.

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Chamois. These are my bros. Whenever I summit any of our local mountains I can't avoid these little acrobats. Easily the animal I saw in wild the most. They're everywhere pass the elevation of 2000m. They share the same problem with Wild Boar, which is that I've never seen them in captivity. But again, similar to Wild Boar, would really help diversify ungulate choices

Essential: At least 1

6. Big predators rework

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Not necessarily new animals, but a touch ups rather. Changing Himalayan Brown Bear to Eurasian Brown Bear and updating Gray Wolf model would go a long way. These are our only big predators. Also these two picks would differentiate a local pack from broadly European one, since, if I understand correctly, neither are present anymore in Western Europe. So either one or both would help push that wild Balkan feel

Essential: Not, would be cool tho

7. A couple of exhibit reptiles


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And for the finish to touch it up a bit a couple of reptiles for our boxes. We already have Salamander and Newt which actually go a really long way. Never in my wildest dreams have I predicted playing a zoo game with those. As for the reptiles my number one pick would be: Nose Horned Viper. As far as Europe goes this snake lives only in pockets in Balkans. Have some really beautiful color variations. And a cool horn. A childhood boogey man. We were always advised to stray away from shrubs and rock crevices, lest we not be bitten by one of these. Additional choices could be Common Adder, Legless lizard (sheltopusik), Occellated Lizard and maybe a species of Turtle or Tortoise.

Essential: One if not none
 
Which actually leads me to a question: say you get unlimited roster slots to complete the roster for your country's wildlife. What do you pick?
As a Spanish fellow, I can name some species to complete our magnificent fauna 🇪🇸

1: Firstly, and a very obvious pick, is the Iberian Lynx, my most beloved species from my country, the world's most endangered feline. Spain representation isn't even complete with this fellah ✨

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2: As another obvious pick, we have the Wild Boar. Pretty comon in almost every part of Spain, and a very requested animal. Luckily people seems to like this guy, and has a possibility of apearing some day!

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3: As the third candidate, we have the Pyrenean Chamois. A beautiful species from the mountains of Cantabria and los Pirineos. Another unique european representative!


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4: Spain is full of goats, so why not another one? The Spanish Ibex, a relative to the already in-game ibex. Not the most special one, but not less beautiful!

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5: As our next animal we have the European Mouflon. Yes, another caprid 😂, but this one might be more special for its colouration and shape, similar to the dall sheep!

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6: The next candidate is a classic one, the Roe Deer, a classic animal from Spain. Is one of our most beloved species around here, we have almost 200.000 roe deers!

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7: Our finalists! As the 7th choice is a curious one, the Iberian Wolf, a very threatened wolf species. Is very special for us because they are very threatened this days, so a bit of representation in-game should be fine!

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8: Spain has lots of interesting species, but this one, is one of the coolest: The Iberian Brown Bear, an endangered subspecies of Brown Bear. People seems to want brown bears, so this might be a good candidate!

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9: Now a very sad one, the Cantabrian Capercaillie, a species that is disapearing too fast. I hope they get better in next years, with a bit of luck and effort, they will be better!

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10: As the second bird, i present the Common Crane, a migratory bird that spends winters here. A very easy species to make counting with the red crowned crane!

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11: The Common Wall Gecko is like the raccoon of North America. You can find this little bois anywhere!
12: The Iberian Pond Turtle is a very curious terrapin from the ponds of Spain and North Africa, such a wonderfull addition!
13: The Greek Tortoise. Don't be foolished by it's name, apart from Greece, it lives in other places such Italy and Spain!
14: The Grey Heron is a curious bird that is found in Africa, Europe and Asia, but we have some here around winter!
15: The Little Egret, the small cousin of the grey heron, we have lots of them here!
16: The Mediterranean Chameleon. You know, I want chameleons, you want chameleons, everyone wants them!
17: The Iberian Pig, the fount of our greates food, the Jamón De Pata Negra!
18: The Mediterranean Monk Seal has a sad past with poachers, but thankfully still alive!
19: The Common Genet, I was surprised when i discoverd that we had these on Spain, truly a very cute animal!
20: The Imperial Spanish Eagle, our greatest raptor around all over spain, such an imponent and precious species!
21: The Bearded Vulture, a true treasure from our country, one of the best animals I can think from Spain!
22: And finally, but not least, 3 vulture species: Eurasian Griffon Vulture, Black Vulture, and the Egyptian Vulture, truly some keystone species from our country!

Some people say that Spain don't have unique and diverse fauna, but I really believe the opposite. We have a very rich and diverse fauna with fantastic and unique species that I hope people can see, discover and enjoy. VIVA ESPAÑA!!! 🇪🇸
 
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Some people say that Spain don't have unique and diverse fauna, but I really believe the opposite. We have a very rich and diverse fauna with fantastic and unique species that I hope people can see, discover and enjoy. VIVA ESPAÑA!!! 🇪🇸
Your list is great, but I would add even more:

-European mink (critically endangered and only living in a couple of European countries)

-Eurasian otter (our otters not only live in rivers, now they are starting to appear at some beaches!)

-European beaver (a species that has come back from extinction in our country)

-Pine marten (to add more mustelids)
 
Which actually leads me to a question: say you get unlimited roster slots to complete the roster for your country's wildlife. What do you pick?
Well, Mexico occupies the top 5 of the largest megadiverse countries and the zoo animals here are 90% from Mexico and the rest from other parts of the world, plus we have species from North America and a some from Central America, make a pack of animals from Mexico would honestly be very viable, here is my top of the most important ones to make a zoo with animals from my country

1 One of the most wanted animal in this forum, the Geoffroy´s spider monkey an ABC animal in mexico, fun fact they are wild local animal where i live
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2 another requested new world monkey and in this case one of the loudest, the Yucatán black howler, funny because some people has raccons, foxes, badgers and possums of backyards animals and we have this animal as a backyard animal, i choose this species of howler because is more common over the mantled howler here
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3 a simply re-skin animal but is my second favorite animal IRL also i love when i go to the beach and ALWAYS i can see them, the American Flamingo, i really think we need them, the greater flamingo is and super uncommon animal and this every zoo in mexico has them
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4 and oddball for the rest of the people outside of North American, but at least the last key animal from here, the American Black Bear, even here in mexico is so common in the zoos and there are some endemic subespecies from the north and some parts of the central mexico, the grizzly can not replace this animal, a lot of color variants and different biomes than its north cousins (ABB even lives in deserts)
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The northen cousin, but i personal preferens, the White-nosed Coati, they live in a wide range from southern US to Colombia in South America
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6 ABC aniamal that the game needs, the Collared Peccary, iconic species and like the others (exept the ABB) a wild local animal with a huge range
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7 an iconic animal of the jungles of mexico, the Mexican Tamandua, another wild local animal
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10 a lot of people didn´t know but they also live in mexico, yes i´m talking about the Sea otter, a very different otter than the others we have
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9 an oddball pick, but is the most common captivity subespecies of wolf in my country, and the only subspecies that i´ve seen in zoos, a cool wolf that could live in deserts areas and a pretty good history of conservation
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another species that also lives in mexico and are common in zoos here and around the world:

10 North America porcupine
11 Ringtail
12 Virgian Opposum
13 Ocelot
14 White-tiled deer
15 Desert Bighorn sheep
16 Northen Elephant Seal
17 Coyote
18 Mexican Agouti
19 Scarlet ibis
20 Roseate spoonbill
21 Mexican Cocodrile
 
Unlimited Roster for Australia hey. I think Chuditch really has an incredible and comprehensive list but the bird nerd In me wants to add to their list. So my answer is - Chuditch's list of perfect plus (aviary expansion):


Some birds are in the walk through similar to the butterflies. For the others, let's just imagine frontier introduces a aviary build option that's similar to the exhibits but with better implementation and more creative options.


-Finches (zebra, Gouldian, red browed firetail, diamond firetail, double barred, star) WE
  • Fairywrens (southern emuwren, purple crowned, variegated, splendid, superb, white winged, red backed) WE
  • Honeyeaters (eastern spinebill, bell miner, noisey miner, Lewin's honeyeater, regent honeyeater, crimson chat, orange chat, scarlet myzomela, blue faced honeyeater, noisey friarbird) WE
  • Paradise Rifle bird
  • Bowerbirds (green catbird, satin Bowerbirds, regent's Bowerbird, western Bowerbird, spotted Bowerbirds) we
  • Willy wagtail
  • magpie lark
  • Robins (scarlet, pink, red capped, rose, hooded, flame Eastern yellow) we
  • noisy pita, rainbow pita
  • Chowchilla
  • Magpie, Pied Currawong, Grey Butcher bird, pied butcher bird
  • Rainbow Bee Eater
  • Oriental Dollarbird
  • Kingfishers (Laughing Kookaburra, Azure Kingfisher, Forest Kingfisher, Sacred Kingfisher, Buff breasted paradise kingfisher) aviary. Kookaburra interacts with educator on keeper talks.
  • Lorikeets ( Rainbow, Musk, little, scaly brsted) we
  • parrots are a bit.. we have a lot. I think a mix of we and aviary types would be suited. Aviary - with educater interaction (king parrot, Regent, scarlet chested, Aussie ringneck). aviary without educator interaction (in my experiences, shyer of people) - (ground parrot, redwinged, blue winged, swift, bluebonnet)
Walkthrough ( budgerigar, Bourkes, mulga, red rumped. I Also want to combine the c*ckatiel in here too. It's the only c*ckatoo that I think should be we)
-Rosellas, I know they're parrots but the parrot section is already a bit messy (crimson, Eastern, northern, pale headed, western, green. Might as well have them all, right?) We
- C*ckatoos. Theyre all aviary and interactive - (palm, yellow tailed black, Red tailed black, gang-gang, pink, galah, little Corella, sulfur crested)
oos - aviary (pheasant coucal, pacific koel, shining bronze)
  • Tawny frogmouth
  • Owls (powerful owl, sooty owl, barking owl, southern boobook)
  • falcons (peregrine, nankeen kestrel)
  • birds of prey ( osprey, letterwing kite, square tailed kite, pacific baza, wedgetailed eagle, swamp harrier, whistling kite)
  • pigeons and Doves ( brown oo dove, pacific emerald dove, common bronzewing, crested pigeon, Spinifex pigeon, diamond dove, Wonga pigeon, wompoo fruir dove, rose crowned fruit dove) we
  • great egret, white faced heron.
-masked lapwing
Let's not go into the ocean birds and migratory birds hey 🤣🤣🤣. No one get me started on a marine pack either.
 
Well, Mexico occupies the top 5 of the largest megadiverse countries and the zoo animals here are 90% from Mexico and the rest from other parts of the world, plus we have species from North America and a some from Central America, make a pack of animals from Mexico would honestly be very viable, here is my top of the most important ones to make a zoo with animals from my country

1 One of the most wanted animal in this forum, the Geoffroy´s spider monkey an ABC animal in mexico, fun fact they are wild local animal where i live
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2 another requested new world monkey and in this case one of the loudest, the Yucatán black howler, funny because some people has raccons, foxes, badgers and possums of backyards animals and we have this animal as a backyard animal, i choose this species of howler because is more common over the mantled howler here
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3 a simply re-skin animal but is my second favorite animal IRL also i love when i go to the beach and ALWAYS i can see them, the American Flamingo, i really think we need them, the greater flamingo is and super uncommon animal and this every zoo in mexico has them
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4 and oddball for the rest of the people outside of North American, but at least the last key animal from here, the American Black Bear, even here in mexico is so common in the zoos and there are some endemic subespecies from the north and some parts of the central mexico, the grizzly can not replace this animal, a lot of color variants and different biomes than its north cousins (ABB even lives in deserts)
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The northen cousin, but i personal preferens, the White-nosed Coati, they live in a wide range from southern US to Colombia in South America
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6 ABC aniamal that the game needs, the Collared Peccary, iconic species and like the others (exept the ABB) a wild local animal with a huge range
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7 an iconic animal of the jungles of mexico, the Mexican Tamandua, another wild local animal
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10 a lot of people didn´t know but they also live in mexico, yes i´m talking about the Sea otter, a very different otter than the others we have
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9 an oddball pick, but is the most common captivity subespecies of wolf in my country, and the only subspecies that i´ve seen in zoos, a cool wolf that could live in deserts areas and a pretty good history of conservation
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another species that also lives in mexico and are common in zoos here and around the world:

10 North America porcupine
11 Ringtail
12 Virgian Opposum
13 Ocelot
14 White-tiled deer
15 Desert Bighorn sheep
16 Northen Elephant Seal
17 Coyote
18 Mexican Agouti
19 Scarlet ibis
20 Roseate spoonbill
21 Mexican Cocodrile
The howlers really are backyard animals, when I was in Mexico there were groups of them patrolling the hotel grounds.
 
The howlers really are backyard animals, when I was in Mexico there were groups of them patrolling the hotel grounds.
Thats exactly why i never quite understood the " ugh its just a backyard animal picking through my trash" against the raccoon and others.
Many animals are somebodys backyard animal. Like when i was in italy people widely regarded crested porcupines as annoying pests because the keep rooting up their gardens while to other people they are something super exotic and exciting
 
A Latin America Animal Pack with this roster I think would do wonders to solve a lot of the issues we have rep wise:
  1. Patagonian Mara
  2. Greater Rhea
  3. Black Howler Monkey
  4. Spectacled Bear
  5. South American Coati
  6. Collared Peccary
  7. Guianan Squirrel Monkey
  8. White-Tufted Marmoset, Cotton-Top Tamarin, Emperor Tamarin, Golden Lion Tamarin, Goeldi's Monkey (Walkthrough Exhibit)
Of course this is still missing some animals but I think this covers most of the desired bases.
This would basically complete south america in one go lol
 
Thats exactly why i never quite understood the " ugh its just a backyard animal picking through my trash" against the raccoon and others.
Many animals are somebodys backyard animal. Like when i was in italy people widely regarded crested porcupines as annoying pests because the keep rooting up their gardens while to other people they are something super exotic and exciting
Yea I 100% agree! Though for me, "backyard animals" are usually small passerines and rodents! Though some people are lucky enough to get foxes and badgers wander into theirs here.
 
Yea I 100% agree! Though for me, "backyard animals" are usually small passerines and rodents! Though some people are lucky enough to get foxes and badgers wander into theirs here.
Yeah same. I got alot of magpie in my backyard, which are super interessting to watch mess around. We got a pond so we also have a couple frogs and in the spring a lot of toads who come here to breed
 
Yea I 100% agree! Though for me, "backyard animals" are usually small passerines and rodents! Though some people are lucky enough to get foxes and badgers wander into theirs here.
I wouldn't say I'm lucky to get foxes and badgers, they are more of an issue since they both of them fight for their own territory never mind my own cat in between them, although they do act as pest control in the long run. One animal I love having as a backyard animal is the European hedgehog, they are so cute when I get to see them.
 
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