FAO FRONTIER: List of Graphical Changes / Issues for since Patch 1.3
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And we wonder why the devs don't post...
Yup, better to just let the speculation and conjecture fester. That's better. :/
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The current problem is that the Steam overlay doesn't work with SweetFX on! at least on my end, now that I'm playing through Steam, I had to remove SweetFX in order to use the Steam overlay, chat or music player.
If someone knows a workaround to have SweetFX and Steam Overlay working togheter, please share!
Sorry, I don't have any new bugs/screenshots to contribute. But I still wanted to give my opinion on the last developer's response.
Thank you Zac, I appreciate the effort. And thanks to Greg for the response. Yet after many attempts to interpret and respond appropriately, I can only come up with this:
You guys have used a lot of words to not tell us anything.
What I expected was along these lines:
As evident by the screenshots in this thread something has changed! To respond so evasively indicates nobody at Frontier noticed or everybody knows about it. If nobody noticed, well, that can actually happen in larger companies. Developers and artists iterate their content much faster and get used to these changes, while outsiders experience the change more drastically. If everybody knows about it and yet still be this evasive about it, I would suspect it's intended for a reason that everyone is afraid is going to cause a sh*tstorm.
As you see, such an evasive response leads only to meaningless interpretation and rumour milling.
But nevertheless: Thanks for taking time to take this to the devs and responding! Hope some of the old glory returns with the next updates
Thank you Zac, I appreciate the effort. And thanks to Greg for the response. Yet after many attempts to interpret and respond appropriately, I can only come up with this:
You guys have used a lot of words to not tell us anything.
What I expected was along these lines:
- "Yeah, that does look screwed up. We're going to look into it"
- "It was reduced since there are X other factors now in the game that would have negatively impacted this."
- "We rewrote some shaders to be more cross-platform-compatible and had to drop some effects. We'll add these back in future patches."
- "We unified our asset building system and it seems there were some bugs building the PC version."
As evident by the screenshots in this thread something has changed! To respond so evasively indicates nobody at Frontier noticed or everybody knows about it. If nobody noticed, well, that can actually happen in larger companies. Developers and artists iterate their content much faster and get used to these changes, while outsiders experience the change more drastically. If everybody knows about it and yet still be this evasive about it, I would suspect it's intended for a reason that everyone is afraid is going to cause a sh*tstorm.
As you see, such an evasive response leads only to meaningless interpretation and rumour milling.
But nevertheless: Thanks for taking time to take this to the devs and responding! Hope some of the old glory returns with the next updates
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound negative. But I am indeed frustrated that so many good suggestions seem to be ignored. Look at the suggestion forums for example, that is less and less active, because very few devs reply (with Jon Pace, Head of UI replying rarely and Sarah, of course). And there are great suggestions over there. It just seems like they are focused on their tasks, but ignoring a potential source of great ideas coming from the forums, that could make the game a lot better. I know they are people, I know game design is hard (since I am studying game design), and of course there will be negativity and bad posts in the forum, since we are people after all (and some of us murderous pirates), but overall, listening to the suggestions from the community could be helpful for the general development of the game. This active participation on their side could improve the community, with the complaints being addressed and suggestions at least taken into consideration, and so the overall frustration and negativity would be reduced, at least somewhat. Also, its a good business model, since happy customers equal more DLC purchases in the future, and those customers can also call their friends to join them, and in general, an improving game attracts new customers, happy to support an obviously growing game and a great team of devs.
But what I say doesn't really matter, since its gonna be ignored, again. I am happy that at least they listen sometimes...
I like what I am seeing recently, there is a visible effort to address issues the community has raised. I have noted many improvements and fixes, and sure there are always *somethings* left to do, the work hasn't gone unnoticed, nor the efforts, at least on my part. I would love to stay and KUDOS more, but I have a couple friends who I am going to introduce to ED today so I need to be in the game.
Thanks FDev and community.
Thanks FDev and community.
Do you have any plans to fix the lod colour mismatch ?
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are you serious? If you are, then can you elaborate a bit, what do you see exactly? Please provide examples.
I have a fix right here - GIVE US AN OPTION TO DISABLE THE LODS
LOD( Level of Detail) is essential part of any games performance, instead of disabling we need options to tweak the distance they appear.
This is depressing. If this is for Xbox, that's even more so. Why can't FD build two separate versions of the game with different graphics? We don't deserve this.
With CQC and perhaps a few more eye candies, we can keep them entertained. I mean, they went out and bought a Console, they can't truly get upset enough with that to make FD change their mind.
With CQC and perhaps a few more eye candies, we can keep them entertained. I mean, they went out and bought a Console, they can't truly get upset enough with that to make FD change their mind.
Tell me my friends,
What is the point of making a pretty game, with SICK graphics on Ultra if you are going to lag anyway if there's 10+ CMDRs in the same instance?
You may have the best machine available, running the game on LOW or ULTRA, if theres more than 10 CMDRs on your instance/supercruise you WILL experience lag.
Everyone does experience lag regardless of what PC they have and what config they have set up in ED.
I understand that having the best graphics is amazing, but this shouldn't be a priority right now.
Everyone experiences lag on this game, is just a matter of being in a populated area.
Those who never experienced it are either playing solo/private or never went to a populated area(exploring)
I'd rather wait for better graphics and let them work on BETTER NETWORKING.
What is the point of making a pretty game, with SICK graphics on Ultra if you are going to lag anyway if there's 10+ CMDRs in the same instance?
You may have the best machine available, running the game on LOW or ULTRA, if theres more than 10 CMDRs on your instance/supercruise you WILL experience lag.
Everyone does experience lag regardless of what PC they have and what config they have set up in ED.
I understand that having the best graphics is amazing, but this shouldn't be a priority right now.
Everyone experiences lag on this game, is just a matter of being in a populated area.
Those who never experienced it are either playing solo/private or never went to a populated area(exploring)
I'd rather wait for better graphics and let them work on BETTER NETWORKING.
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Every time you post, I get hungry...
lolAnd I am sure it's better networking that will solve the stuttering. But to have the graphic's downgraded to most likely accommodate the Mac/ Xbone player base is not cool, give us the choice to downgrade, upgrade or keep our preferences. via graphic options.
Devil's Advocate: There is the succinct possibility that the graphics are being downgraded bit by byte in order to see if there is a texture hog, or glitch in the matrix, process of elimination type of deal.
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Thanks Zac for making that feedback available to us - cheers to Greg too!
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this would seem to cover what he was referring to about the comparison pictures people were using as "evidence". Each of the pics I've seen used as "proof" of loss of image fidelity, have not been comparable due to different lighting states. Either recreate the shot EXACTLY or toss your comparisons in the bin.
this would seem to cover what he was referring to about the comparison pictures people were using as "evidence". Each of the pics I've seen used as "proof" of loss of image fidelity, have not been comparable due to different lighting states. Either recreate the shot EXACTLY or toss your comparisons in the bin.
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Going by this it should be easily possible to reproduce the top image in current version. If anybody cares to try, I say good luck with the cockpit!
ignore..
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