FD: Apparently Elite got noticed, not in a good way

[Briarée]

So a "huge" number of players are going to ruin the game by buying it, being new players and needing to learn the game, then concentrate on killing new players repeatedly.

Sounds like gamma launch, only without the beta players.

Sounds great for the game and FD. Thanks for the warning...

tbh, if they are really who i think they are:

1- 40£ is nothing, most eve player have job and throw great money in it, 40£ is pocket change
2- learn what? it's not like elite game mechanics are deep and hard, especially compared to eve (nothing wrong with that, just how it is), i too come from eve and it took me 1h top to get the mechanics.
3- yes, they are scum, but they are (unfortunately) dedicated to "their goal" for best or worst.....


tbh i hope this will serv as a wake up call for FD to get rid / fix the stupid mechanics, because these guys are known to exploit to death whatever flaw in a mechanic design they can find in order to fullfill their goal, so either FDEV fix them, or open will suffer big time

 

[Renegade Roach]

You really are a one track pony. I don't believe this for one minute.

There are places where these guys talk pretty openly about it. At least some of those hacking are doing so with the explicit intention of disrupting the game to grief FD over offline.

 

[mono]

Couldn't care less about EvE and the intentions of its player base but I certainly won't be wasting £10/mo to go and pee in their pots.

 

[Privata]

So the new players will think ''oh look a combat player , better fight back'' or ''he is anoying , il play solo''

 

[CMDRKNac]

No one cares:
1) 20k populated systems
2) >100 bill systems
3) solo; group

And even in open what if 50 guys join the game. Better for FD and for the game (some people will be able to pvp at least if they want). Any 'security' problem will be fixed in further updates when they add consequences, do not let you dock in hostile space etc. and the game will be FINEEEEEE.

People has to learn to select a neighbour system and jump into it. No one is forcing you to stick to a single system . This is getting old and boring.

 

[Kevin Kyle]

Sounds like Goons to me...

Yes it does. I think that group gets bored a LOT. lol

 

[freehotdawgs]

lol this operation, if it's even real in the first place, is already doomed.
The first fail is that they all have to buy the game.
Second, players can just block them.
Third, anyone can go solo and escape from them so blockades can never work.
Fourth, the game is so large they could never cover the whole thing so at the very worst it will be only the starter areas which I would already recommend everyone leave as soon as they can. Most players will never even see a single member of their group, even if they have hundreds of people attempting it.
Last but not least, they will have to actually put a lot of work into the game in order to get to the point where they are a real threat to any skilled pilot. This isn't Eve where the only things that matter are the stats of your equipment.

 

[Huita]

Reminds me of people with "there's a bomb" prank calls.

 

[xCOMxTRUISEx]

No one cares:
1) 20k populated systems
2) >100 bill systems
3) solo; group

And even in open what if 50 guys join the game. Better for FD and for the game (some people will be able to pvp at least if they want). Any 'security' problem will be fixed in further updates when they add consequences, do not let you dock in hostile space etc. and the game will be FINEEEEEE.

People has to learn to select a neighboring system and jump into it. No one is forcing you to stick to a single system . This is getting old and boring.

Eve players who are doing this will be in for an epic fail.
Each instance can hold up to 32 players max. So thay can't be griefing very many at any given time. .
They are playing elite that means FD has their money. Obviously there not playing eve while there doing this.
All press is good press..
I think that says it all.

 

[SlackR]

If this is true I often wonder how old such people are? I also wonder if they would behave like this if you met them in person? As a newcomer to the world of online gaming it constantly amazes me how ridiculous perfectly decent people can act when online.

Having said that, there a also a bunch of decent people out there too.

 

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Yes it does. I think that group gets bored a LOT. lol

The Goons would do something far more extravagant, meaningful, and hilarious. There are actually quite a few Goons who've been championing various crusades with people flocking to their cause in droves. All the while, none the wiser of who their benevolent Overlords truly are.

Popping into a very active CZ and dumping tons of cargo to lag out and subsequently kill afkers yes. But this? I just can't see it.

 

[Frankfort]

In the begining we had the same problem with griefers we handeld it bij hunting them in groups it was not easy with out the wings options but with chat channels and friend lists we found them and removed from the mision systems.

the bueaty of this game is you can create your own police force and hunt them down .

Using a balance of trackers interdictors and killers using bait etc now with the wings option it should be easier
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[Tryst]

Silly players with no real skill joining the game from eve specifically to engage in PvP against better pilots with better stuff? I look forward to making them go squish

That actually made me wonder. Eve combat and Elite combat are very different, you may have skill in one but trying to become good at the other takes time. Chances are, they will squish a lot more easily than many of the players here who have had plenty of time to master the flight dynamics, specifically FA off. Chances are, many of them can't even best a Dangerous NPC.

 

[Libluini]

If this is true it's sad as hell people get kicks doing that sort of thing.

Don't worry, it isn't true. Trust me!

 

[yyy]

Sounds like the people who want ED to remain will fightback. Then we'll have a great big space battle and lots of fun...

 

[Gingerwig]

I'm not sure if FD may already be aware (I assume yes). But apparently your success has gotten noticed.
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One of my old corp mates from EvE mentioned last night. Apparently a large group of players from multiple corps on EvE are deliberately targeting Elite, this was going on before to a limited degree but has apparently reached a much more serious and organized level since the Steam launch. The intent seems to be to run Elite into the ground before it can take off. The plan is apparently to target and grief the living crap out of people, new players specifically until people quit and the game dies off.
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I'd imagine eventually they'll lose interest and give up, but from the sounds of things you'll have a very large group (by Elite standards) of players from outside of the Elite community targeting your player base.
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Anyway, for what its worth.

So in other words. Eve players are going to try and take down ED by giving ED loads of money and then playing the game for ages?...

...think I may have spotted a flaw in their plan.

 

[Ancipital]

...think I may have spotted a floor in their plan.

Don't be such a damp squid, trying to knock them off their pedalstool.

 

[Briarée]

So they are going to spend money to kill the game? #seemslegit

Besides, being a toon in EVE with tens of thousands of skill points means squat in ED. It just means they played the game long enough, not that they are experts at space sims. The mechanics of ED are not particularly complicated but the lack of a financial transfer option means each person will have to work their own way up to ships that can actually shoot something, and then learn how to do it well. I foresee a lot of easy meat coming my way ))))

I'm betting some of those EVE players will like the more relaxed atmosphere of ED and stick around. I have played EVE for over three years.. Unfortunately most of my assets are in lowsec right next to nullsec and its a PITA to get expensive ships out without an escort. Also, two of my toons will get shot on sight if they enter high sec space...

Anyways. ED and EVE are very different games. I wish ED had some of the mechanics of EVE, but almost never miss the non-stop teeth-grinding seat-of-your-pants fighting, running, fleeting.

i thought that after 3 years one would be able to get anything in / out of any lowsec.....it's not like anything can stop you anyway..... (ps: i play since 2010 lowsec since 2011 with a few month in null and WH). you CAN get ANYTHING out of ANY lowsec, you just need to be clever about it .

and while ED and eve are very different, "buying" your way in eve doesn't mean anything, unless you know the game mechanics, and only experience can bring you that, regardless of the amount of money you throw at it for buying a toon / ship.

often such player get caught in situation where their multi billion ship / pod get caught and killed by player with way less expansive ship using a toon with way less SP....tears and anger usually follow...

now, to get back on topic, the group we are talking about here is known to adapt rather efficiently to various game, regardless o it's complexity, and exploit any design flaw it may have to their advantage, and abuse them to death.

sure some player will beat them, kill them because they are better / more experienced, but what matter is the big picture.

some of us can and will probably kick them hard, but they'll just eat their losses and go harass someone else, now said someone else migh by casual / newbie, and how long do you think said player will stick in open being repeteadly griefed on when he could go solo / group?

game by itself isn't threatened, open on the other hand.....well i think that depends on how dedicated said players are at "killing" the game (my own experience say they usally are dedicated unfortunately), and FEDV response.....

because in the end, regardless of their goal, one has to admitt that they put developpers in front of their own design desicions....

 

[yyy]

I used to play eve a lot, and i think have some screenies from the good old days.

Here we have a screenshot from one of the most epic battles ever; in the history of EVE ONLINE.

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I personally remember this encounter well. It's when the might of cell D21 went from 3103, to 3115 as shown in cell D22. This was all over the gaming industry news headlines for 8, yes EIGHT whole days. Seriously epic guys, you should have been there to see it.

I solve problems at work by typing numbers into spreadsheets. Pretty mundane and boring. I can't contemplate the idea of arriving at home doing more of the same. Really piloting a ship in combat, heat management, ammo management, adjusting pips, strafing, flying in reverse all the while shooting at Anaconda's is far more exciting. At least it is for me...

 

[Mysturji]

Any proof of that? Or did you just make it up?

Most people play PVE, not PVP. To try and attempt to claim that most people picked it up for the multiplayer is just not something you can back up.

Any proof of that? Or did you just make it up?

Anyway, where to begin?
So a bunch of saddos buy a game en masse hoping to drive prople away by griefing players, apparently thinking that everyone always docks at the same 3 stations in this galaxy of 400 billion star systems, and that nobody has ever heard of or encountered this kind of behaviour before, or that a n00b will cry a river over the loss of his free sidewinder, or that a more experienced player won't have the insurance to cover the loss, or be expecting to get shot at by random ships, some of them competant pilots, or forget how to run away, or have a plasma accelerator, or have forgotten that the name of the game is Elite DANGEROUS.

... And?