Mike mentioned last night that this info is "coming". https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=102277&p=1584648&viewfull=1#post1584648
Edit: Dagnabbit, Mike!
Fer de lance and expected python nerf
- Thread starter Lyker
- Start date
- Status
Mike mentioned last night that this info is "coming". https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=102277&p=1584648&viewfull=1#post1584648
Edit: Dagnabbit, Mike!
And thats the point.
Skilled player in viper can beat player in python. As i said python is NOT godship.
THANK YOU! <3
Either way, while not having flown one, the Python *does* feel far too powerfull. Its the only ship I'm carefull engaging and the only ship that (occasionally) breaches the shield on my Viper (No shield cells).
Normally i'd agree with you, but all it takes these days is a bit of whining on the forums, and devs are already on their knees. In about a year, the game is going to be a vastly different experience, mainly because of all the crying for nerfing
Yea, I make sure I toast anything coming within 2km, but I don't really like being forced into shoot 1st type policy.
That is without a doubt in my mind because the python is the only large ship with appropriate hardpoint placement, every other has a very disperse spread so actually puts even less damage on target than a cobra or viper, for example if you use C3 fixed on the wings of a clipper, you can no longer hit a viper once its at ~50-75m, the spread is too large. This forces you to use gimbals, which have major drawbacks, or turrets, which have even more drawbacks!
Maybe viper should be nerfed!
Go and nerf them! He cannot be better than my stock cobra!!! i want want want win!!! Devs should stop listening that crying and nerfing guys.
They playing poor and everything is OP for them and everything should be nerfed.
If you guys cant win, go and make some training, you will play better, buy better ships and you start winning. Or do not engage pvp if you are scare.
Last edited:
That's not what they've said at all. "Manouverability slightly adjusted" I think was the actual phrase
I can't help but think that that is the problem; you shouldn't be considering taking on a large combat ship in a viper by yourself because you'd have an expectation of massive retaliation and certain death. The balance for a Python should not be against a small fighter.
- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -
But that's the effective outcome. It is the only larger ship that currently stands much chance against even a lone smaller fighter, manoeuvrability is the deciding factor in combat. If you can't bring your weapons to bear then you cannot win the fight.
So basically what it should have actually been from the start then. A ship of that size and firepower simply should not have the agility of a far smaller ship with less firepower.
I really don't get this whole allergic reaction when devs tweak stats. "Oh no, they nerf like WoW, this is so bad, only because of whining, carebears, kids these days, etc". It makes more sense to me to debate the actual changes and whether they are justified. To me the python does seem to be a little too agile, and toning it down a notch makes perfect sense to me. Being against it 'because nerf=bad' makes absolutely no sense. Saying 'ship X is expensive so there can never be a debate about any of its stats' also seems a bit... weird. Finally, considering the devs are planning to add more ships I think they are in a far better position to judge how ships should relate to each other and to the ships still in the pipeline. If they tweak something, they may actually have given it some thought. Who knows, they may even have ended up with a good reason to do it!
A cmdr really shouldn't let another cmdr get so close to him and nothing should stop a continious volley at 30m, ever, IMHO.
A cmdr really shouldn't let another cmdr get so close to him and nothing should stop a continious volley at 30m, ever, IMHO.
Last edited:
That is why there are these things called Turrets. You should not be expecting a Type 42 Frigate to be turning as fast as a RHIB.
Good question.
Yes. And adjusted can mean 'in minus' and 'in plus'... and slighty means less than more.
.
Fair enough, but in a slower larger ship the only way to do that is to toast anything getting within 1km, or SC outta there, as you cant out-run them; as I said earlier leads to shoot on sight behaviour at every encounter. I've never been a fan of insta-gib weapons.
Last edited:
Yes... lets nerf everything. Lets make this great grind an even greater waste of time. It does not matter that the Python is the most expensive warship in the game. Lets make it as slow as freighters. Lets nerf and balance everything to the point that all ships are of the same strength, all trade routes have the same profit and all weapons are equally useless and pricey. I hate stupid MMOs.
But it isn't a type 42 frigate, we're in an environment with no drag.
- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -
Amen to that
- Status