Where can I find Razzle?Yes.
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My auto-correct changed Raxxla to Razzle the first time round - now that is a whole different ballgame!!
Fleet Carriers are completely useless.
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It's in the Dazzle system
The little people
it would be something different, but I got a dophin converted it into a 52 ton cargo ship that flies like a ace. 83 LY could be anywhere.
I have to say, FCs are better than I thought they'd be. They're fantastic for bulk trading, they let you put your own personal base anywhere you want quickly, and they give you a place to store your stuff. Great exploration bases, ferries, and remote outposts as well. Plus, it's just nice to have a place to call home.
That's why you need to PM me, so I can set this up and give you my carrier location, add you to my in game friends list, but it's in the bubble. i'm not going to just leave it open and let anyone drop by when they feel like it, i have a schedule to keep. 52 ton could earn you about 3.1m an hour, maybe 3.6m if your were quick and efficient. You would need about 2.2m in free credits for working capital for sell runs, buy runs much less.
Carriers are best content since barnacles / guardians while we were still high on the hope that frontier was going to do something with them. Those were the days.
100% anyone who hates them cant afford one (ps, you can afford upkeep too).
Yeah explorers are going to get tested on both fuel and upkeep sure. Best to load up both before you go.
100% anyone who hates them cant afford one (ps, you can afford upkeep too).
Yeah explorers are going to get tested on both fuel and upkeep sure. Best to load up both before you go.
I think the problem is players wanted them to do more than carry stuff. But tbh fdev never said they would be anything more than mobile bases. The idea of them entering combat as capital ships or something like that was very far off when even regular capital ships just stand there and are kinda helpless.
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They make excellent pitstops. In CZ's last night, using carrier 3Mm away, it does look like an aricraft carrier on approach and .. touchdown, refuel, rearm and relaunch takes all of five seconds! None of that turny aroundiness station pads always have to do.
I don't know, having seen my FC nuke a Pirate attacking me in a Federal Dropship, and it only took 2 volleys of the lasers before they exploded, under 10 seconds, if you could fly the Fleet Carrier in SuperCruise from a "Deck" and low wake it into any area, and have offensive targeting ability for the lasers. Man you would mash up anyone in a conflictzone in complete safety. Would we wayyyyyyyyy overpowered.
That's the reason you can't do it. Station and ergo Carrier armaments have to be the ultimate force, so they can't really introduce them into the combat arena.
Because carriers have the same defenses that stations do, IE the "Instant kill" defenses. The problem is, if they add a way to attack, damage, or even destroy carriers. Than the persistent problem occurs. Imagine buying a FC just to log out, log in the next day, and it got blown up. There would need to be a way to keep your carrier safe when your logged off or something. This is why I gave up on games like Rust and similar games, because every time I got "raided" it was when I was offline. They would also need to balance the defenses on Carriers to avoid them being overpowered, probably make them similar to megaships or somethings.
Maybe adding Space Docks or something to put carriers in while your not using them to keep them safe would be nice, but what if your away from the bubble? Greifers WILL find a way to grief!
Ever since I found out that exploration is my thing I wished for some kind of inflatable base, that I could temporarily plop up somewhere to have a home away from home - sort of a tent to create a basecamp to come back to. What we got now is not a tent but a caravan, and after being very sceptical in the beginning I am now loving it.
The fuel requirement adds incentives to go out and prospect. The DSSA network has added quality player made content.
My personal plan is to plan mini-expeditions for myself, moving the carrier to some area that has few discovered systems and to explore the immediate surroundings with different mission objectives (for example prospecting for resources (report for my testrun), bio-signatures or guardian ruins), using UC aboard to secure rights (well, the tag) for first discoveries on the go. Thus it adds an extra layer of gameplay to me. Sure, I could have done the same without a carrier, but using that logic 90% of all ships are useless, too.
The sandboxy part of ED is to find uses for the tools you are given
The fuel requirement adds incentives to go out and prospect. The DSSA network has added quality player made content.
My personal plan is to plan mini-expeditions for myself, moving the carrier to some area that has few discovered systems and to explore the immediate surroundings with different mission objectives (for example prospecting for resources (report for my testrun), bio-signatures or guardian ruins), using UC aboard to secure rights (well, the tag) for first discoveries on the go. Thus it adds an extra layer of gameplay to me. Sure, I could have done the same without a carrier, but using that logic 90% of all ships are useless, too.
The sandboxy part of ED is to find uses for the tools you are given
Can't find Dazzle on the Galaxy map. But I did find Dazbog. Could you have given the incorrect spelling?
Actually, Dazbog sounds like a place where you would go to the toilet in clothes washing powder.
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Dazbog is only 56.92 ly from Sol. Might be worth a visit for a Razzle search. This could be the start of a whole new thread.
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Same here. I was skeptical at first, but I really love my FC now. Two jumps I was in the Witch Head Nebula. With a nice view close to a gas giant to boot. Every time I approach it I feel like coming home. It feels like living in a luxurious camper van now. Completely changed the game for me even though I didn't think it would add much to it. The storage facility is one of the most useful things - I don't now have to worry about finding a selling market and dump my cargo somewhere, I also don't need to max out mining trips. Just stop when I'm bored, store the cargo, do something else.I'm pretty much in the same boat. Man did I hate the carriers! And how negative I was about Bruce' statement that the carriers would change our all way how we play the game! One of my biggest brain farts ever... Has however also a quite precarious shortening of my anyway short sleep duration as a result.
Fuel requirement and upkeep costs have been perfectly adjusted, IMO. So much fun now!
There has to be some balance, to do 500 LY in 15 mins and 15 jumps you would need FSD range of 34 LY plus a big fuel tank. But the rub is with a standard ship, you have at least 5 mins to fully refuel either scooping or docking (with SC time to station). So in reality to match the jump speed of a FC you need to jump 500LY in 10mins, 10 jumps, so a 50LY FSD, and fully loaded at that.
There is a reason suddenly people are taking "tourist" trips to Colonia, 22k LY away, it's easy and quick in a FC, take what you want, fully loaded explorer ship. But to FSD jump there in a normal 50LY or less ship, it's probably a fair bit slower.
What do you want? normal Ship FSD cooldown and jump times, approx. 1 minute, for a Fleet Carrier? Ok you get that, but then the impatient will go mental when they burn through 24000 T or Tritium in a day and have to spend a year mining in the black to restock it.
Balance my boy, balance.
The sandboxy part of ED is to find uses for the tools you are given
"The street finds its own uses for things"
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