There's been no patch update (the PS4 one is a pre-patch I believe, in preparation for another one to follow), so not AFAIK.
Fleet Carriers - Patch 3 - Known Issues
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There's been no patch update (the PS4 one is a pre-patch I believe, in preparation for another one to follow), so not AFAIK.
Ironically yes you'll find loads in LTD spots, spent 4 hours mining and got a couple hundred tonnes and zero diamonds.
Hell no. This won't be resolved for sometime, I doubt anyone will be doing anything over the weekend.
I could be wrong, I HOPE I'm wrong! I doubt it though.
Do you want to make everything in the belt, in every belt, Tritium?
Because making suggestions for easy fixes like that is how you turn everything into Tritium!
All I care about is fueling my fleet carrier, so yeah, that works for meDo you want to make everything in the belt, in every belt, Tritium?
Because making suggestions for easy fixes like that is how you turn everything into Tritium!
All I care about is fueling my fleet carrier, so yeah, that works for me
Actually, I agree - fill the hold up and be set for a while.
Not fixed yet, just tried a double overlap of Tritium and nothing over 5% in 20 rocks I prospected. Morons.
Moving the goalposts again I see. So be it, it just completely negates any "debate" you're attempting. I see no reason to be redundant to cater to people too lazy to use a link that says "More details here," that's their problem (and yours?), not mine.You must be a lawyer.
Most people do not speak so precisely unless they're in a professional / legal / engineering focussed situation.
If you were offended by the 'generalisation' of most people finding, at best a few tonnes of LTDs across many hours playing, whilst searching in a non-LTD hotspot, because searching an LTD hotspot gave them nothing at all, as an exaggeration by saying the valuable minerals were removed, you are being pedantic. To go from being able to mine 250+ tonnes of LTDs in an hour, to requiring 6+ hours for the 10% of that, (an approximate hourly rate drop of 98.3% using rounded figures) is close enough to be accurate for the purposes of the discussion.
And yes, you were clear in your linked thread, but the initial reply was worded without mention that it had taken you 6+ hours to achieve, and many (dare I say most even) are not likely to read the thread because they'd assume (wrongly) that all the pertinent information was stated in your reply and that the linked thread provided evidence.
You complain about inaccuracy yet are disingenuous in your own posts, Commander.
To be clear, I'm an artist, amateur astronomer, electronics hobbyist, musician, sculptor, animator, and a few other avocations not as noteworthy. Yes, I value accuracy, rationality, and honesty. That isn't a character flaw.
Interesting to see you have tried out my suggestion to use hotspots labeled for other minerals to boost tritium harvesting; it'd be useful to get full numbers on that. As I mentioned in the thread I made, I noted a significant lack of SSD lodes and core asteroids compared to previous weeks, months and years, and a lot more need to laser mine. The tritium SSDs I did find yielded good harvests compared to lasering, but were few and far between. Core mining is borked because of the Abrasion Blaster bug but if you forego other mining methods on core rocks it's pretty much normal in my experience so far. Numbers from others trying this out would help expand the sample base on which decisions to do some really serious tritium salvaging can be done. My sample of one is just a beginning, and until the issues are resolved (hopefully sooner than later), it could benefit all Commanders with FCs to have a fallback, even it's not ideal.
Moving the goalposts again I see. So be it, it just completely negates any "debate" you're attempting. I see no reason to be redundant to cater to people too lazy to use a link that says "More details here," that's their problem (and yours?), not mine.
To be clear, I'm an artist, amateur astronomer, electronics hobbyist, musician, sculptor, animator, and a few other avocations not as noteworthy. Yes, I value accuracy, rationality, and honesty. That isn't a character flaw.
Interesting to see you have tried out my suggestion to use hotspots labeled for other minerals to boost tritiumZ. harvesting; it'd be useful to get full numbers on that. As I mentioned in the thread I made, I noted a significant lack of SSD lodes and core asteroids compared to previous weeks, months and years, and a lot more need to laser mine. The tritium SSDs I did find yielded good harvests compared to lasering, but were few and far between. Core mining is borked because of the Abrasion Blaster bug but if you forego other mining methods on core rocks it's pretty much normal in my experience so far. Numbers from others trying this out would help expand the sample base on which decisions to do some really serious tritium salvaging can be done. My sample of one is just a beginning, and until the issues are resolved (hopefully sooner than later), it could benefit all Commanders with FCs to have a fallback, even it's not ideal.
Hardly, just pointing out that most people don’t talk like they‘re giving a witness statement and needing to be as precise as that would entail.
I had already tried ‘your suggestion’ myself last night, before joining this thread hence why I was able to provide my own figures about not finding VOs in a VO hotspot and no LTDs in an LTD one.
I suspect there’s a level of cross purposes here; I have not changed my stance but don’t think we’re arguing the same point, at least not entirely.
You seem to be pointing out that it is possible to find anything you want to move if you look for it, albeit not in the hotspots named for it, and you’ll find things worth mining, if not in the quantities of before?
If so, I don’t disagree, but I’ve never disputed that.
My point has always been that the system has been changed such that if you go to a hotspot to mine something, and you can’t find it (a few paltry tonnes are so worthless as to be considered zero when leaving the hotspot can arguably get you more returns), it’s broken.
That's not the case today, and wasn't the case yesterday either. Tritium is as likely in a Tritium hotspot as it is in a LTD hotspot, I'm getting the same amount of Tritium from each.
Like I said, I've been mining in a ring with 3 Tritium hotspots (no overlaps) and one LTD hotspot, and Tritium yields are the same in all four.
I'm getting 3-4 times as much Tritium outside the hotspots as in them.
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I've had no issue finding Tritium so far, but I've not been looking for it in a Tritium Hotspot. Apparently, it's as bountiful in a Tritium Hotspot as LTDs are in an LTD Hotspot, but that statement is based on what is being reported by others, not from my own experience.
So pleased to see supply/demand is also as messed up. Just flew to a station with a good sell price on LTD, 738K. Flew back to my FC 37ls away and returned in a different ship and stocked up with 400units of LTDs. Round trip of less than 5 mins. Price dropped to 137K. Was it the ship ? The cargo ? Fdevs ? Or the NPC ganker who jumped in and threatened to "boil" me as I was crossing the mailslot threshold ? There's a Youtube video showing the same mechanics when a guy flies his regular account and an alt account to the same station. 2 massively different prices in the same timeframe.
Maybe I should add that FDevs need to change up the pirate text on some of these challenges. I've seen better dialogue in mid afternoon American soap operas.
There's a Youtube video showing the same mechanics when a guy flies his regular account and an alt account to the same station. 2 massively different prices in the same timeframe.Maybe I should add that FDevs need to change up the pirate text on some of these challenges. I've seen better dialogue in mid afternoon American soap operas.
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Sounds like hotspots are broken across the board?
Laser mining, maybe. Especially overlaps no longer work, but that appears to be the intention.
Core mining is bugged, but not relevant for tritium.
Surface and sub-surface are reduced in number per rock, but they are so abundant that it doesn't really slow you down any.
So far I am having no trouble filling up with 168T of tritium in 90mins using about 70 limpets exactly the same as before the patch. That's in Tritium hotspots.
They did say Tritium mining for carrier fuel was broken and they were working on a fix today, not sure what else they can do - admitting it's borked is admitting a mistake.
Yes, it's broken, as discussed on the carriers threads. You can currently find more in a Tritium ring outside the hotspots than you do inside. As this thread says, it's likely a decimal point error in the hotspot algorithms.
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Riiiiiiiight. And that’s where fleet carriers are supposed to come into the picture: as an aid to your flying and exploration experience. But if you can’t fund its upkeep, and you can’t refuel it, then you can’t use it.
So pleased to see supply/demand is also as messed up. Just flew to a station with a good sell price on LTD, 738K. Flew back to my FC 37ls away and returned in a different ship and stocked up with 400units of LTDs. Round trip of less than 5 mins. Price dropped to 137K. Was it the ship ? The cargo ? Fdevs ? Or the NPC ganker who jumped in and threatened to "boil" me as I was crossing the mailslot threshold ?
Maybe I should add that FDevs need to change up the pirate text on some of these challenges. I've seen better dialogue in mid afternoon American soap operas.
I've got this in a spreadsheet
Station Demand number * 0.25
Demand of 2242 = 561 before tax
So if that station had a demand of 1400, only 350 could be delivered before tax,if it was Velis > Menezes Dock , that has a demand of 1510 giving 378 before tax, so sell to 378, wait like 10-12 mins for it to refresh then you should be able to sell at that price, pain in the a** oh yes it is, but its a bit better than before it was a lot lower threshold to taxation.