So you need a video of the scarab getting launched by mats? Or how about driving over those rocks without feathering your boost?
For the love of god please fix Scarab Maneuverability
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This. There are many ways to steer the SRV while jumping so that you'll land nicely and can continue driving into the right direction immediately.
And it is also possible to just not crash into rocks (e.g. by boosting over or driving around them).
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People in this thread keep alluding to the uncontrollability of the Scarab, and I keep wondering what they are talking about. Seriously. I myself don't see much of a problem. Sure, on low-gravity slippery-ice worlds the SRV spins around more easily and makes longer jumps even on very small bumps, but that feels completely normal to me, and it's quite easy to learn to avoid it. Just watch what's ahead of you and drive accordingly. It's not like it's extraordinarily unrealistic. You can't expect a vehicle to behave the same on a 0.05g moon than it does on 1g.
But more fundamentally, even considering that, I still don't see the utter uncontrollability and unmaneuverability of the vehicle. It feels quite controllable to me, and believe me, I drive the SRV a lot. So, perhaps, it may be a question that I presented before in this thread but which wasn't really answered:
Is this a question of controller vs. mouse&keyboard? Is this difference caused by the input device you are using? Are people who are finding the SRV almost uncontrollable using keyboard&mouse?
Because I find the SRV very controllable with a game controller (in my case an Xbox One controller). The analog trigger allows for very fine-tuned acceleration, and the analog stick allows for very fine-tuned turning, allowing quite well-controlled behavior of the vehicle even on the most extreme terrain and gravity conditions. Just learn how the vehicle behaves, and watch the terrain ahead, avoid the bigger rocks, decelerate when a bump is coming up, be aware of ice, be aware of low-gravity conditions. Does the SRV still sometimes turn around because of hitting a rock? Yes, but rarely, and it isn't really all that bothering.
I use joystick and the throttle control, I enjoy running flat out across the plains with the SRV, jumping, sliding around rocks, even the odd spinout is just part of the fun, after all I am often driving 100kph across ice, it takes "learning", just like driving rally cars on snow and ice.
Yup, analog controls definitely help.
Nope.
I use kb/m and DA Off and i have no issues (W/S accelerate/decelerate, A/D steer left/right plus roll left/right, X handbrake, mouse vertical axis as pitch while flying the srv)
Sure, when i was playing on the XB, the controller was a bit more comfortable to play with due to analog triggers/sticks, but kb/m is perfectly fine
There's a material problem at the moment yes, that isn't a Scarab problem.
That was a clip from a stream. If you want to find some other driving without boosting it'll be in there somewhere. Driving over rocks generally works fine (unless there are materials around...).
Drive-Assist off is definitely the key.
Easiest thing: check your speed, speedometer is NOT Kp/h or Mph, its meters per second. When speedo says something like 30, you are actually going 100 kph or 60mph. Would you drive real car off-road on such speeds? Probably not. Take account also what is local gravity, and what kind of surface. And drive assist off, it is really more like a hindrance than assist.
Btw. I drive with steering wheel and pedals, make it really nice to control.
Btw. I drive with steering wheel and pedals, make it really nice to control.
Absolutely. This is almost mandatory
using default throttle keys on kb setup (R/F) is atrocious especially for the SRV
However, i dont think i'd been able to play the SRV with a hotas using the throttle as Accelerate/Decelerate.
Too much movement to control the speed. Click/Release 2 adjacent keys is so much faster. Well, 3 with the brakes.
i did play on XB more than 3000 hours using an XB Elite Controller.
Nice experience, nice controls, but i really lacked aim finesse - i was never really able to have any sort of decency with fixed weapons and i was struggling even more when FA Off was involved.
That's why when i got my first PC account, i decided to keep with kb/m even tho i was struggling at first, but now i can at least use fixed weapons, and FA Off is not that scary anymore.
I'm not really sure anymore, but I think it was the exact opposite to the ships: DAoff in SRV was my standard go to and I basically didnt use the other mode.
I think a mixed approach could be perfectly possible: Mouse&keyboard in combat, controller everywhere else. It's not like they are mutually exclusive.
Precisely this
I drive the SRV in DA OFF all the time,
but,
i fly my ships mostly in FA ON (FA Off very rarely, basically only when soloing interceptors but not even then 100%)
And i always thought DA OFF was really counter intuitive in effects
That was dreadful, Alec...
At least 3 of those landings were less than perfect!
Brilliant movie, thanks.
i never tried to mix them both...
i might reconsider my approach, but at least on XB, the controller used to turn off after 15 minutes if not used and starting the game with the controller off hopefully not mess with my binds...
I can only say its easy so the problem is with "YOU" get real
FAOff doesn't smooth the input, so it's been a horrible fight with the stick. Good to boost axis input for a very short time but for normal I found it uncontrollable and I never bothered finding 3rd party tools to remedy that. I used it just on demand for faster pitching.Precisely this
I drive the SRV in DA OFF all the time,
but,
i fly my ships mostly in FA ON (FA Off very rarely, basically only when soloing interceptors but not even then 100%)
And i always thought DA OFF was really counter intuitive in effects