Forced minning? Really ??
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Elite is an international game.
English is just the Lingua Franca.
If you're only playing with native English speakers, you're really missing out on what is going on.
When I was working in Europe, each day I would write two things on the back of my hand:
1) The name of my assistant for the day.
2) How to say "Thank you" in their language.
On these forums there are those of us who are masters of the English language and use terms like "Lingua Franca" as a mild put down to native English speakers with a not so broad vocabulary.
And there are those who are trying to express their valid points of view through the confounding, obtuse and horrible hodge podge of stuff that is the English language.
OP has a point.
You're lucky you don't have to express yourself in Russian.
They laugh at me when I try.
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And actually I'm enjoying OP's point about forced mining.
Makes me think of the Salt Mines of Elite. And all the grief about grinding.
Actually- Why isn't Salt 1) a commodity and 2) Mineable?
Maybe if you lose enough rep with an engineer or faction you could be sent to the salt mines.
"We are very disappointed with you CMDR. To regain your reputation you must bring us 1000 tons of Salt"
except then I guess that's what we're all doing here in the forums.
Mining for Salt.
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Look, I genuinely believe that the whole point of this patch, and I'm not talking just about the engineers thing but also about the missions overhaul, is to encourage players to get out of the confort zone of their preferred activity and try new stuff.
FD has dedicated a load of work to have it's playerbase stop complaining about how repetitive is this game and try something different.
Forcing pew-pewers into minery or traders into combat is the very specific target of 2.1, so even if we don't like it, we will have to choose between ignoring all those things or learn new ways of playing this game.
FD has dedicated a load of work to have it's playerbase stop complaining about how repetitive is this game and try something different.
Forcing pew-pewers into minery or traders into combat is the very specific target of 2.1, so even if we don't like it, we will have to choose between ignoring all those things or learn new ways of playing this game.
I never even considered mining before 2.1, but now that I've tried my hand at it I found that I actually like it quite a lot, very relaxing and fun. It's no problem for me Re: the engineer requirements because I just park my Anaconda in the vicinity of whichever engineer I'm currently dealing with (along with a smuggler Asp), and swap into it as needed.
Plus, it seems like mining is not a half bad way to make huge piles of filthy lucre, too. I love filthy lucre. The more and the filthier the better.
Plus, it seems like mining is not a half bad way to make huge piles of filthy lucre, too. I love filthy lucre. The more and the filthier the better.
Let me take a wild guess though, OP.
You quite happily spammed Robigo for credits right?
You quite happily spammed Robigo for credits right?
They forced him to do it.
Well OP you can always use one of the 4 other base Engineers to get an intro to one that hates mining as much as you.
I quite like mining at the right time, its equivalent to 5 years ago turning on the TV and after 2 hours not remembering what you watched. That is how I use it anyway. Having said that, there are skills with mining, where you go into the ring - sort of ring etc. Me I'm crap at it!
Simon
I quite like mining at the right time, its equivalent to 5 years ago turning on the TV and after 2 hours not remembering what you watched. That is how I use it anyway. Having said that, there are skills with mining, where you go into the ring - sort of ring etc. Me I'm crap at it!
Simon
How about we actually do something for the Engineers which is good for them? I mean, sorry for the weird idea, but the mission system was just reworked once again, why couldn't the whole be based on "quid pro quo"?
More detail as one idea for that would be here.
It's not forced.
1) You don't need the upgrade its optional.
2) You could find the material through trade with friends.
3) You could offer to defend people mining for you etc etc.
Lol nice to see that its not just us traders who are not happy at all.
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Grief about grinding.
Grinding griefers.
Mining for Salt in the forums.
Actually, they had to nerf "mission failure = faction influence decrease" because it was being abused.
Even though it makes sense.
Maybe it could be re implemented - if mission failure had a harsh effect on rep, and if you fail a lot of missions, the only missions you are given have no influence effect and are burdensome with grinding.
Grinding griefers.
Mining for Salt in the forums.
Actually, they had to nerf "mission failure = faction influence decrease" because it was being abused.
Even though it makes sense.
Maybe it could be re implemented - if mission failure had a harsh effect on rep, and if you fail a lot of missions, the only missions you are given have no influence effect and are burdensome with grinding.
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Indeed, it should have worked until they stopped trusting you to do anything important, and you'd have to work your way back into their good graces
I chortled.
Not everyone speaks English as a first language.
How delicious to see one of the PVPers get salty about an activity other than Pew-Pew to obtain certain things in game - especially considering that the same kind of player usually tells a trader or explorer complaining about unwanted combat to suck it up as it is part of the game.
So allow me please: "Git gud at mining, as it is part of the game"
I'm with OP. Mining is tedious and boring. I've tried it with each iteration, always hated it. I imagine not many people do it and this is the developers way of making people mine since they spent so much time coding for it. It's dull and unrewarding and forcing players to do it is cheap. "You don't have to do it!" It's like telling somebody they don't have to level up in an RPG. Please.
For me, it's the last straw. Finally uninstalling this game. I feel ripped off by Horizons, what a bunch of obtuse junk.
I just had to register and post how I hate this community. What a bunch of fanboys. I won't miss you.
For me, it's the last straw. Finally uninstalling this game. I feel ripped off by Horizons, what a bunch of obtuse junk.
I just had to register and post how I hate this community. What a bunch of fanboys. I won't miss you.
I didn't mind mining pre-2.1; it was relaxing and yields were always good in my Mineaconda.
Mining in 2.1 SUCKS. More junk ores, collection takes MUCH longer due to all the garbage materials, still no ability permanently discard/destroy junk cargo with collector limpets active, constant irritation of the cargo hatch closing to program a limpet, limpets frequently chain-suicide into asteroids, can't program multiple limpets at once, etc. etc. etc.
Mining in 2.1 SUCKS. More junk ores, collection takes MUCH longer due to all the garbage materials, still no ability permanently discard/destroy junk cargo with collector limpets active, constant irritation of the cargo hatch closing to program a limpet, limpets frequently chain-suicide into asteroids, can't program multiple limpets at once, etc. etc. etc.
have some rep Not to forget missing storage , basically loosing your modules if you have to refit and the list goes on and on ...
Too much crap to gather , just playing the game will not magically give you the components required , if you aim for a specific upgrade .
on one side its nice to have many different materials needed , on the other side its quite tedious and basically a second job if you want to get materials , especially for a specific mod. You will pick up loads of crap you dont want for the moment and either you abandon them , never to be seen or you carry all the crap around all the time.
