Friendly Reminder From Fans

znôrt

znôrt
Alien said:
After today, my confidence in Frontier doing ship interiors properly is zero.
They can't do alpha testing properly, instead of testing until it's ready, they test until a set-in-stone deadline and then release no matter what state it's in.
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today? your account is form 2008. frontier has never ever done proper public testing. not a single time. every beta there has been, paid or otherwise, they have released a completely different version from the one tested (voiding the little testing done) and beta periods and release dates were never altered on grounds of testing.

there have been two delays, none of them related to testing or feedback. both on grounds of quality and both showing no improvement whatsoever in the quality process and results after the delay, it got actually worse. one of the delays even used an open letter as excuse and "brought back betas" that had been long discontinued completely, which was irrelevant anyway because the purpose was never really to do proper testing.

so ... how could this possibly surprise you today? how could you possibly expect something different? where have you been since 2014??

(about the armstrong moment ... comedy gold! :ROFLMAO: )
 

nosleepdemon

nosleepdemon
Paul Eddington said:
From a coding point of view, ship interiors and you walking around in every ship in the game would be a total rewrite of all the code required to place 38 ships in the game.

It would take a re-write of the code governing all ships in Horizons as well as Odyssey.

Frontier is just not interested in doing this, financially or otherwise.

It will never happen. Give it up.
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Uwotm8? Care to explain this total code rewrite? The biggest hurdle would surely be designing and building the interiors, since "space legs" already exists.
 

Alien

Alien
znôrt said:
today? your account is form 2008. frontier has never ever done proper public testing. not a single time. every beta there has been, paid or otherwise, they have released a completely different version from the one tested (voiding the little testing done) and beta periods and release dates were never altered on grounds of testing.

there have been two delays, none of them related to testing or feedback. both on grounds of quality and both showing no improvement whatsoever in the quality process and results after the delay, it got actually worse. one of the delays even used an open letter as excuse and "brought back betas" that had been long discontinued completely, which was irrelevant anyway because the purpose was never really to do proper testing.

so ... how could this possibly surprise you today? how could you possibly expect something different? where have you been since 2014??

(about the armstrong moment ... comedy gold! :ROFLMAO: )
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You're right. It's just that after 2+ years of developing Odyssey and then announcing an Alpha phase, I honestly thought that maybe Frontier's development model had changed for the better. And to be clear here, I don't blame the devs for this, this comes from management trying to please shareholders and investors. Some of the shareholders are people in this forum, regular players like you and me. How do they feel about a rushed product being released not because it's ready, but to be included in this year's financial report?

I get labelled a white knight sometimes, and it's because I always try to see the positive side in things and Odyssey was no different. To use the X-Files' most popular catchphrase, I wanted to believe. I guess I was a fool to do so.
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
Chrystoph said:
So, only Obsidian Ant's roughly 7k respondent fans matter?

Sounds like an echo chamber in here here here
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I got the link to vote in the thread on the forums here.
That being side, I don't disagree with your assessment, but likewise think it's likely significant enough to reflect the prevailing desires of the player base as a whole.
Well, I should hope so at any rate, since it's part of the game Frontier sold them on wanting to make.
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
This got me thinking though...
You know what would be amazing?
If Frontier actually amazed everyone.
You know, instead of chasing the dream, they'd been living it all along and we just didn't know it yet.
That'd be a pro move.

Well, no need to speculate about it anyway, so sorry for that – it's past my nap time. They seem to be doing pretty well for themselves at any rate.

Cheers.
 

Susanna

Susanna
[SI] [VR] SenseiMatty said:
Well, I'm part of the 97% that voted for ship interiors, but only because there wasn't an option for full atmospheric planets.
I still prefer atmospheric effects, weather, water worlds exploration over gameplay on legs.
So if you ask me, the next big DLC should be about atmospheric planets rather than ship interiors.
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^^^^ spot on! This!
The exploration side of the game needs some love now.
 

Susanna

Susanna
Alien said:
After today, my confidence in Frontier doing ship interiors properly is zero.
They can't do alpha testing properly, instead of testing until it's ready, they test until a set-in-stone deadline and then release no matter what state it's in.
They can't even do an "Armstrong moment" (their words) right.
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Which is why I got a refund...
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
Susanna said:
^^^^ spot on! This!
The exploration side of the game needs some love now.
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True, but at this point, I'd be happy to explore the inside of my ship so long as there isn't an irrelevant mini-game to open the doors and hatches or something... :LOL:

Open the POD BAY DOORS... plaese. 😔
 
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Susanna

Susanna
WR3ND said:
True, but at this point, I'd be happy to explore the inside of my ship so long as there isn't an irrelevant mini-game to open the doors and hatches or something... :LOL:

Open the POD BAY DOORS... plaese. 😔
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You need an Arc Cutter for that...
 

Susanna

Susanna
WreckRoot said:
I honestly believe that Odyssey is the enabler for ship interiors. In order to appreciate ship interiors, you have to allow travelling on foot. If you're working on a whole new way to traverse the world, you might as well not limit it to ship interiors and allow users to walk outside of the ship and sell that as a big upgrade to the game.

Once moving on foot is figured out and established, ship interiors are just a small step away.
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Sure, the 'walking' part of it...

The actual 'interiors' is another thing! Most of the ship designs in ED have a large dose of Handwavium thrown in... That's about to bite fdev in the posterior!
 

Scoob101

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OGR Nova said:
Be a dear and don’t roll with the 3% who don’t really care, that wouldn’t exactly be a good business model.
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A) The poll was not indicative of anything other than how bad OA is at wording polling questions.
B) ship interiors could mean anything.
C) players giving a billion pound company business advice is funny.
D) Poll functions are not here in the forums for good reason.
 

Scoob101

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Mogen Teras said:
FDev needs to remember that we, the players, are the ones responsible for paying the devs their paychecks. If they don't deliver what we want, then they don't get paid. Simple as that.
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Sorry to tell you, but for a publicly traded company, its share price which is the major consideration.
 

Hacker#451563

Hacker#451563
I say do the interiors and make sure the 'conda is given the propper nerfing it thoroughly deserves to make all the pieces fit.

Then have an hour dev stream where they read salty posts and just say "But you asked for it.", for the whole hour.
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
Hacker#451563 said:
I say do the interiors and make sure the 'conda is given the propper nerfing it thoroughly deserves to make all the pieces fit.

Then have an hour dev stream where they read salty posts and just say "But you asked for it.", for the whole hour.
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You seem to imply that this might be a bad thing... ?
 
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