Frontier to drop VR support in 2020?

There are crickets and tumbleweed from the people that tore into everyone questioning whether VR would be supported in the future.
Although I don’t believe I’ve ever “tore into” anyone regarding the future of VR, I have definitely said that I thought their fears were unfounded and of course the future of ED included VR.

I was wrong.

I hope no one ever took offence at my non-belief in their worries, but if they did, I offer my apologies. I’m now going to slip back into my headset, I need the foam padding to dry my cheeks 😢
 
FD have not come out and gave a direct answer to the question of dropping support for VR. Just that the new DLC won't support it at launch. This doesn't mean it will never be supported.

NMS, Pavlov, Skyrim, Fallout 4 are all supported with a VR version of the game, and work well. Subnautica is another one that requires the user to be sitting using a xbox controller for locomotion.

So for me yes it's upsetting that FD won't support VR at time of release, but they have never came out and said they are 100% dropping their support for VR.
 
FD have not come out and gave a direct answer to the question of dropping support for VR...
...So for me yes it's upsetting that FD won't support VR at time of release, but they have never came out and said they are 100% dropping their support for VR.
That is the problem for me, and I suspect a few other VR users - the statement had just enough ambiguity to be useless in my opinion.

If they intend to eventually add VR for Odyssey, then fine, I don’t mind waiting. I’d probably play some flatscreen on release to get a taste, knowing that the awesome version will be along in 2022 or whenever.

If they intend to never add VR for Odyssey, then fine, I’d be a bit upset and very disappointed in the short-term but I’d probably eventually come around and try it out on release.

I would, however, like to be told definitively, one way or the other. I’ve been through this before after David Braben’s ambiguous Offline dropping email a month before the original release and it took a lot of people going “Wha..? Does this mean Offline’s been dropped?” before FDev finally released a proper “It’s dead, Jim” statement.
 
Basically all I have to say is:

  • If they remove VR support from Elite Dangerous Horizons, I will be taking a full refund for Elite Dangerous, Horizons DLC, and all the ARC I have purchased to keep them afloat.
  • If they retain VR support in Horizons, I simply won't purchase the new Odyssey DLC until VR is supported there. But I won't initiate refunds.

This game is VR for me. Not at all interested in any other way of experiencing it. The new content looks good only if it is in VR, otherwise I am just not interested. This is all being done in Star Citizen, and in much better quality. VR is what makes this game worth playing.
 
FD have not come out and gave a direct answer to the question of dropping support for VR. Just that the new DLC won't support it at launch. This doesn't mean it will never be supported.

NMS, Pavlov, Skyrim, Fallout 4 are all supported with a VR version of the game, and work well. Subnautica is another one that requires the user to be sitting using a xbox controller for locomotion.

So for me yes it's upsetting that FD won't support VR at time of release, but they have never came out and said they are 100% dropping their support for VR.
I agree they haven't said VR support for Odyssey won't be coming, but on the flip side, they haven't said it will at the point when that statement would be most useful to calm VR users' fears.
 
When Frontier announces that something won't come out at launch, it may never come out. You forgot the volcanic planets? They became little geysers, and then....
 
Although I don’t believe I’ve ever “tore into” anyone regarding the future of VR, I have definitely said that I thought their fears were unfounded and of course the future of ED included VR.

I was wrong.

I hope no one ever took offence at my non-belief in their worries, but if they did, I offer my apologies. I’m now going to slip back into my headset, I need the foam padding to dry my cheeks 😢
^^^
This.

Frontier's continued missteps regarding Elite: Dangerous continue to baffle dismay me.
 
Basically all I have to say is:

  • If they remove VR support from Elite Dangerous Horizons, I will be taking a full refund for Elite Dangerous, Horizons DLC, and all the ARC I have purchased to keep them afloat.
  • If they retain VR support in Horizons, I simply won't purchase the new Odyssey DLC until VR is supported there. But I won't initiate refunds.

This game is VR for me. Not at all interested in any other way of experiencing it. The new content looks good only if it is in VR, otherwise I am just not interested. This is all being done in Star Citizen, and in much better quality. VR is what makes this game worth playing.

Fortunately, we won't be losing VR support for Horizons or the base game. We just won't get to explore the new worlds in VR... which is what I wanted to do.

From the announcement thread:
Just to add to this, VR will still be compatible with the base game and Horizons!
 
Fortunately, we won't be losing VR support for Horizons or the base game. We just won't get to explore the new worlds in VR... which is what I wanted to do.

From the announcement thread:
After playing AircarVR I’ve dreamed of that experience coming to ED, raindrops on the canopy in a neon-soaked city scape.

Every time I’ve been in low orbit around an atmospheric world, I’ve thought, “one day, my beauty.”

Gas Giants always get a wiggled eyebrow as I sail on by as I remember the concept art.

Now...I’ll have to content myself with the magnificent desolation of barren worlds. It’s going to itch though, knowing that it could be so much more...
 
I didn't read the whole thread so what I'm about to say may already have been said... FD have officially confirmed that VR will NOT be in Odyssey at launch. Hop over to YouTube and have a listen to Obsidian Ant's latest video for more info.
 
That is the problem for me, and I suspect a few other VR users - the statement had just enough ambiguity to be useless in my opinion.

If they intend to eventually add VR for Odyssey, then fine, I don’t mind waiting. I’d probably play some flatscreen on release to get a taste, knowing that the awesome version will be along in 2022 or whenever.

If they intend to never add VR for Odyssey, then fine, I’d be a bit upset and very disappointed in the short-term but I’d probably eventually come around and try it out on release.

I would, however, like to be told definitively, one way or the other. I’ve been through this before after David Braben’s ambiguous Offline dropping email a month before the original release and it took a lot of people going “Wha..? Does this mean Offline’s been dropped?” before FDev finally released a proper “It’s dead, Jim” statement.

So much this!

Unless they explicitly come out and say it’s in development and will definitely be coming then I think the writing is on the wall for VR.

All the ‘we love VR bit want the best experience’ is just spin so they can drop it later entirely.
 
That is the problem for me, and I suspect a few other VR users - the statement had just enough ambiguity to be useless in my opinion.

If they intend to eventually add VR for Odyssey, then fine, I don’t mind waiting. I’d probably play some flatscreen on release to get a taste, knowing that the awesome version will be along in 2022 or whenever.

If they intend to never add VR for Odyssey, then fine, I’d be a bit upset and very disappointed in the short-term but I’d probably eventually come around and try it out on release.

I would, however, like to be told definitively, one way or the other. I’ve been through this before after David Braben’s ambiguous Offline dropping email a month before the original release and it took a lot of people going “Wha..? Does this mean Offline’s been dropped?” before FDev finally released a proper “It’s dead, Jim” statement.

Agreed though I have enough content still to do that I'll just skip getting Odyssey until closer to the VR launch. I don't mind waiting, I do mind if they drop VR. This is one of the best VR games so I would hate to lose support for VR during an expansion permanently.
 
Its weird reading this sub-forum. Its like the bar you all go to after a huge layoff at a company to pay the respect to each other - and then walk off into the sunset.

I really feel bad for the uninformed buying the game on Oculus Store. That is a bunch that will feel very shafted.
 
Fortunately, we won't be losing VR support for Horizons or the base game. We just won't get to explore the new worlds in VR... which is what I wanted to do.

Yeah, see this here is what gets me. How much they've added into the base game after Horizons dropped? Not much, the brunt of development has gone on in Horizons.
Now imagine Odyssey dropping. New features, possibly new engine. Now how much do you think they'll bother to push new features and gameplay to horizons then?
Especially if Odyssey brings significant engine upgrades, I'm willing to bet there won't be much development on the base/horizons game anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be more than happy to be wrong on this, but the pessimist in me is pretty sure VR will be phased out gradually.
 
Basically all I have to say is:

  • If they remove VR support from Elite Dangerous Horizons, I will be taking a full refund for Elite Dangerous, Horizons DLC, and all the ARC I have purchased to keep them afloat.
  • If they retain VR support in Horizons, I simply won't purchase the new Odyssey DLC until VR is supported there. But I won't initiate refunds.

This game is VR for me. Not at all interested in any other way of experiencing it. The new content looks good only if it is in VR, otherwise I am just not interested. This is all being done in Star Citizen, and in much better quality. VR is what makes this game worth playing.

I'm pretty sure FD has made it clear that VR support will remain for Horizons and VR will not be included in Odyssey on launch.

The unknown is whether it will ever be included in Odyssey? I'm guessing Horizons will fade out over time and VR will simply not arrive in Odyssey. VR fans may then play Horizons for old time's sake and dream about what could have been, but I'm already looking for a VR game to replace it. Could be DCS World (great immersion and really good VR IMO), Star Citizen (who knows with that one) or NMS (really has come a long way since the release in 2016 and now has VR and legs, although a bit cartoonish).

As for the "pancake" version of Odssey, haven't made up my mind. ED was a standout for VR so I think I may have trouble going back to 2D cockpits and planets. I don't think legs will be enough get me over the line, but who knows what else Odyssey will bring.
 
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As far as I am aware, still no-one on this forum knows what will be in Odyssey yet.
As far as I am aware. we have had one teaser video that showed two people walking on a planet.

The uproar of the VR Commanders seems to be based on the fear that they are losing something which I can't see backed up by any few facts that we do have.
I have seen nothing whereby Frontier has said that they are removing VR from the rest of the game.
I suspect (because it hasn't been stated otherwise) that the VR commanders will still be able to experience VR in their ships in stations, in their ships whilst in space, in their ships whilst flying over a planet and whilst in their SRVs on planets.

It is quite ironic, that now a section of the PC community are adversely impacted by a decision made by Frontier, that there is uproar.
For the past three years, a few of us in the PS4 community have been campaigning for access to the same ships as PC and XBox. We were told by those that already had those ships, that Frontier had made a decision and that they shouldn't change their mind.
 
VR fans may then play Horizons for old time's sake and dream about what could have been, but I'm already looking for a VR game to replace it. Could be DCS World (great immersion and really good VR IMO), Star Citizen (who knows with that one) or NMS (really has come a long way since the release in 2016 and now has VR and legs, although a bit cartoonish).

Just a hint, I'd keep my eye on a project called Tinker pilot.
 
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