Game Bashing On Steam

shogun195333

shogun195333
I have over 5000 hrs in the game, I like it.
Would I recommend the game? Absolutely.
Do I get frustrated at times? Sure do!
Will I keep playing? Yep!
Really don't understand all the negative reviews, unless they are among the group of people who insist on instant gratification. Anytime you have upgrades to any kind of program, you are going to have bugs. That's just the nature of the beast. No programming is perfect. Every game is buggy when there is an update, it just seems like the Elite Dangerous community has more than their fair share of people that insist on perfection every time, that is not possible.

There are some tedious and tiring aspects of the game but overall, it's an enjoyable game with many different challenges within the game. It seems that there are some who believe that they should reach the top tier within a very short time. No.
Some, but not all, of the negative reviews seem to come from people who are used to getting their way and when they don't, they resort to belligerent and nasty posting.

Try the game, if you don't like it, get a refund and quit playing.
There are several games that I've played, didn't like, and quit playing. Didn't bash the programmers or the company that owns the games. I simply quit playing.

If you play the game through steam and like the game, go to steam and post your review.

I also noticed that there are quite a few in these forums that like bashing the game, the programmers and Frontier, seems like they spend more time in the forum bashing than they do playing. I'm not talking about the people that post legitimate questions or gripes. We all have some gripes, that's different from bashing.
 

Erei

Erei
It might strike you as odd or perhaps unthinkable, but people can have a different opinion than yours.

Steam allow a review system, and I didn't hear you complain when people were using it to praise the base game. Only when they use it to note their dissatisfaction you suddenly don't like the feature. The basic of all democratic system is to allow both side to express their view, even if you disagree.

Since Steam have strong anti review bombing safeties, what you call "bashing", I call simple negative reviewing. Belittle people for having a different opinion is petty.


I agree that bashing the dev and so is bad though. But steam doesn't allow that either.
 
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VR Dextrovix

VR Dextrovix
The fundamental game when it was released was technically excellent, the initial framework and promise of what could be added afterwards kept me regularly playing for years. For that, I can't complain and I was an alpha backer so put the money and the time in- I guess I would have posted a positive Steam review at the time on that basis.

However, Odyssey is a poor effort and feature- I didn't want legs particularly but that's what we got. I think the original team have moved on over that time, and I'm not really sure whether the current developers have any sort of vision anymore. If I was going to post a review on Steam of the Odyssey expansion, I wouldn't recommend it so I would mark it as negative, and my basis for that would be over performance- it's crap compared to Horizons.

The base game had a good developed framework that I hoped would be built on over the yeras, but Frontier have never really fleshed out the features, and my particular gripe is their lack of VR development since release, but considering all the recent news over dropping console support I realise expecting anything more now isn't going to happen.

So despite not posting reviews on Steam anyway, what I have done is stopped playing, and moved on sadly. But I hang around here because I've earnt the chops and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
 

robbyp

robbyp
There has been a lot of bad missteps by Frontier to moan about recentlly.

This has brought out the crowd in droves.

From releasing a broken version to stopping communication for 3 months.

Yes some people on here play the forums not the game anymore. Can't do much about that.
 

nanite2000

nanite2000
The base game was amazing - the galaxy map, the galaxy skybox, orbital mechanics, procedural generation of star systems, sectors, etc… the flight mechanics, ship variety, mission variety- all of it was so good.

then Horizons made it even better with planetary landings, beautiful planetary vistas, the SRV, Guardian and Thargoid mysteries, Engineers (for better of for worse), etc…

And then Odyssey came along which cut down frame rate performance by about a third for little to no graphical improvement (even a graphical regression in some areas).

The game borders on false advertising because it’s not even possible to make it look like how it was presented in the pre-alpha and promotional material. The on-foot FPS gameplay might be good, but I’ll never know because frame rate performance is so bad.

As for the new exobiology gameplay and planetary geography- both are constant reminders that FDev no longer have the will or the ability to create variety using procedural generation any more, and that’s very sad.

My experience with Odyssey compelled me to leave my first ever negative review of a game, and I think all the negative reviews, and the overall game rating on Steam are entirely justified.

It’s great that it’s shortcomings don’t bother you @shogun195333 , but it’s silly to assume they don’t bother everyone else.
 

Leadfoot

Leadfoot
The OP does have a point, but what the OP is forgetting is that once Odyssey came out in the condition that it did, lots of us long-time players didn't take too well to all the problems with it, i.e., frame rates, people standing on chairs, tables, bugs all over the place (not including Thargoids), to the point that many long time players that wanted it in the first place actually returned it for a refund.

That sort of thing won't get anyone's game good reviews, ever.

Many of us wanted atmospheric landings. Others wanted space legs. I think FD bit off a little more than they should have by trying to do both at the same time. Should have been one thing first, then add the other thing later (or make legs a DLC for those who wanted it). After 11.1 updates it's better than when it first came out but still has a number of issues with frame rates (I've got a GTX 970 that could run Horizons / Beyond without breathing hard but still has major frame rate issues on foot in carriers or on stations/bases - planets have gotten much better).

I'm sure the reviews on Steam have leveled off now (except for console players) to where it's not a complete (n) review anymore. Let's wait and see what the next few months bring now that FD is unshackled from trying to shoehorn ED into a console device. It still would have been nice to have the console players join with us in cross-over missions, but no battle plan survives contact with the enemy, and in this case, the enemy was reality, which bites (in my humble opinion).
 

Dragsham

Dragsham
It's progressing.
Their secretive though which don't do fdev any favours. Leads to speculation, which can be devastating (share prices etc).
What an unholy mess to a slick vr experience in just under a year.
I play exclusively in vr so am always waiting for the performance increase. Squeezing more frames grrrr.
Patience on our part I guess.
See how it all pans out.
 

CMDR Harada

CMDR Harada
Been playing since the first days, and I loved this game. Spent gobs on a HOTAS.. and more on a VR headset, and more on prescription lenses for the headset.. just because of this game. Thousands of hours played.

And yet, since the release of O... I've been playing less and less. Its not a single big reason, it's kind of an accumulation of small ones ..No VR support.. There are better/other FPS games out there. Performance issues. I don't want a carrier or a shiny new space suit.. The lack of FDevs apparent Give-a-F### .. The thought of being forced to buy the upgrade eventually.. FC congestion so bad in some systems you can't seem to find the stations.. The list goes on. I haven't played seriously in 6 months ? It just seems too much effort to drag out the gear and set it up.

Odyssey is.. well, it sucks for me. Nothing there I wanted. So, if I did review it, it would be a solid thumbs down. Bugs, performance issues.. all damaging the original game. Do I want to spend my $50 on what appears to me as a downgrade or features I don't care about ? No. I do not. I'd ask for a refund if I had bought it.

But I waited it out since the release of Odyssey.. I really had hope they'd do something to repair the game and their image over the past 7 or 8 months. And then I heard about dropping consoles ( not the I play on a console ). I don't see how cutting out a big chunk of players ( IE: $$$ ) is going to actually HELP. Maintaining one code base is developer speak for "we don't know what we're doing" or "we're spread to thin without enough resources to make it all work". Finally it all made sense. "O" is just a cash grab before the ship goes under, with a second string crew at the helm, experienced officers having taken their leave at previous ports.. All I seem to see is DOOM..

Parties over, CMDRs. It just seems like it's all going downhill. I'd rather remember the good times.

Bottom Hat : If I had the will to log in, cash all my stuff out, and give it away, you could "haz it" .
 
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