Has anyone tried Point Defence turrets for destroying the glaive missiles? Does that work, or is it just ECMs that we need?
Gliaves are Winning.
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You know they melt (integrity rapidly reduces to zero) guardian weapons, right?
It was a human controlled system about 5 LY from a Thargoid controlled system according to the galaxy map. Maybe I just caught them in the act of moving on with a Monday.
Or dedicated Thargoid hunter ships builds. I'm not sure that I can get my Krait Mk II for dedicated AX planetary combat CZs or my Clipper for gathgering thargoid materiasls even close to a Malestrum at this moment.
note that hyperdictions can take you to another systems instance. if what interceptor is spawned is decided upon arriving to instance, you could get hyperdicted by glaive even jumping between "not glaive" systems
Hyperdictions start in witch-space, and there is no way to determine how far Thargoid control extends there. It's entirely possible that witch-space is where they normally exist. The only interaction we have with witch-space are straight-line blind flights through it. I get the feeling our hyperjumps are interfering with something important to them, hence the invasions.
I've made it a point to never get within 200 LY of any Thargoid controlled system. There are too many unknowns, and I'd rather limit my rebuys to my own mistakes.
I've made it a point to never get within 200 LY of any Thargoid controlled system. There are too many unknowns, and I'd rather limit my rebuys to my own mistakes.
nice car. did they win the war?
I'm not following. Shard cannons are still guardian weapons, whether they're the pre-engineered long-range/focused ones or not.
They swapped sides at half time.nice car. did they win the war?
I think I had a different model of Fiat 500 in mind... you know, the ones you get from a bubblegum dispenser for one Euro.
I wasn't following you initially. Yes, I know they do that. But do they do it instantly?
I have. I was jumping to Lovaroju, having recovered after Thargoid invasion. My hull was already bit battered by caustic effects after leaving the Maelstrom system where I was getting the mats for my Pulse wotsit. They weren't Glaives though, I want to say a couple of Hydras though I wasn't at any point intending to stop and find out but they were tagging me quite a bit and it was pretty touch and go getting out of there in one piece.
EDIT; sorry I didn't see non-active Thargoid to non-active Thargoid.. But it was the only time I've been hyperdicted leaving a Thargoid system to a non-Thargoid active system.
The anti-guardian field is active as soon as they spawn in. With shards you might be able to empty a full magazine once (if they don't malfunction) but they'll likely be 0% before you can do it a second time. That's assuming you don't get hit with the lightning attack which seems to kill them almost instantly (and gives the glaive a shield).
The Glaives are...poorly designed.
The only thing that matters against them is the amount of hitpoints you have and how many gimballed enhanced AX multi-cannons. They've turned thargoid combat, something that used to be about skill and tactics, into a no-skill slug fest. And as a result they've severly limited not only our builds, but even what ships we can use anywhere near then mealstroms.
The only thing that matters against them is the amount of hitpoints you have and how many gimballed enhanced AX multi-cannons. They've turned thargoid combat, something that used to be about skill and tactics, into a no-skill slug fest. And as a result they've severly limited not only our builds, but even what ships we can use anywhere near then mealstroms.
Except that Glaives have a Guardian Degeneration Field (like Maelstrom systems) and all Guardian modules suffer 1-2% damage / second. Your Mod Shards will be dead within 60 seconds at best. You have that time to kill the Glaive, unless you have Human AX weapons too.
That is a problem now. Optimize build for Interceptors or for Hunters (Glaives). Having a mixed build will halve you firepower.
I'm just thinking, maybe module reinforcements could take some of that damage. As is, it seems like the Guardian neutralizer field completely bypasses them.
How do I know? Running into a Glaive with a ship using an FSD booster and escaping. By the time I got away the booster was at 0%, but the module reinforcements(regular, not Guardian) were untouched. Figure it would provide more of a grace period to kill them, though some repairs would likely still be necessary after encountering one.
They probably considered it a transgression as human understandings do not equate to thargoid thinking.
+1 thargoids.
It's not like op can't afford it either..
+1 thargoids.
It's not like op can't afford it either..
Way easier to optimise for hunters
I'm just going to not bother with it. The guardians grind isn't worth being able to kill just one more ship but still be useless against hunters, because you can just run from everything and only hunters are worth killing instead of running from; they're not that strong versus AXMCs and I guess a couple AX missiles would soften them up nicely too. I've done the guardians loop a number of times but for these the requirement to do it once per weapon fitted is just way too steep for the reward; I'm not about to start learning how to cold orbit on mouse and keyboard and I don't have the patience to grind out interceptor kills (beyond cyclops ofc). I just want to obliterate Glaives and scouts and run from everything else. I guess it's time to bring my old Anaconda out of retirement. Back to EDH engineering for me
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