Griefers make open impossible, and how easy the solution is.

You trying to twist my point into an insult in order to deflect away it isn't going to work.


Sorry.

No. You're not getting it.

I'm not the one saying that players are helpless, tied-up deer who need their hands held with another mode where the Bad People can't hurt them. You are.

I'm the one treating my fellow players like adults and urging them to take responsibility for acquiring evasive skills and proper loadouts, because I assume that they can.

Furthermore, I'm urging people to play in the mode best suited for their risk tolerance and skill level. What I am not on board with is suggesting that open be nerfed into some safespace, or that there be a safespace toggle available in open.
 
No. You're not getting it.

I'm not the one saying that players are helpless, tied-up deer who need their hands held with another mode where the Bad People can't hurt them. You are.

I'm the one treating my fellow players like adults and urging them to take responsibility for acquiring evasive skills and proper loadouts, because I assume that they can.

Furthermore, I'm urging people to play in the mode best suited for their risk tolerance and skill level. What I am not on board with is suggesting that open be nerfed into some safespace, or that there be a safespace toggle available in open.
The fact that the conversation about Open has even reached the point where such things are being brought up should be a bright as hell neon sign pointing out that there is a problem with Open as it sits now.
 
Just don't act insulted when people say that open is full of toxic players. And don't act surprised when open continues to bleed players and force them into Solo mode.

How do you know that? You don't even play in open. Also your argument is made since the start of the game and there are still lots of people in open.
The only times I see less or more people is then something happens with the game, like galnet closed, no CGs, carriers delay, broken updates, game on sale, aso. FDev does more to cause players to leave than any ganker could ever manage.

No the problem is that some people feel entitled to ruin everybody else's game experience for their own entertainment. And then when confronted with the fact that they are driving players away they decide to blame the players that are leaving instead of looking in the mirror.

Tell that to the guys running missions ,or come mat farming in our bgs system. That is ruining my and my mates game experience for their own entertainment and they can do it from any mode. If telling somebody how to avoid or get better at something is blaming them than I have no words.
 
Nah. Only a problem with players not managing their expectations properly.
Keep believing that. Players will keep getting forced into Solo and we will continue to see threads with thousands of posts talking about how toxic Open can be. Which will just drive even more players away.


Good luck with that.
 
Keep believing that. Players will keep getting forced into Solo and we will continue to see threads with thousands of posts talking about how toxic Open can be. Which will just drive even more players away.


Good luck with that.

LOL "thousands".

Thousands of posts, maybe. Thousands of people who can't or won't hack open? Try again.

Open remains, by Frontier's own words, the most popular mode by far. If a small number of gankers were going to cause some mass exodus away from open, they would have.
 
LOL "thousands".

Thousands of posts, maybe. Thousands of people who can't or won't hack open? Try again.

Open remains, by Frontier's own words, the most popular mode by far. If a small number of gankers were going to cause some mass exodus away from open, they would have.
Keep believing that if it makes you feel better.
 
If you have a better source of info than Frontier itself, then by all means share.
Open would obviously be the most popular mode. That's not the point I am making and you know it. You are just being disingenuous in order to avoid admitting I am right. It's just the usual deflection tactics that you people use to back up your hollow posturing. All so you can avoid admitting that you all are causing issues for other players who are just trying to enjoy the game.
 
That's a yes lol


By all means continue to play that way. Just don't act insulted when people say that open is full of toxic players. And don't act surprised when open continues to bleed players and force them into Solo mode. Because players like you are the cause. You are just reinforcing the stereotype of what an open player is.


You mentioned Mobius? Imagine if all of those private groups that fled open actually still played an open. Imagine how much more player interaction we would have. How many more squadrons. How much coordinated bgs activity we would have. How many more people would be willing to engage in power play.


Open could be so much better and souch more populated if people would just stop griefing players in Open.
From my experience the one to start calling everyone else toxic over an interaction that’s purely through game mechanics, and no chat trash talk or anything, are actually the toxic ones themselves.
 
Open would obviously be the most popular mode. That's not the point I am making and you know it. You are just being disingenuous in order to avoid admitting I am right. It's just the usual deflection tactics that you people use to back up your hollow posturing. All so you can avoid admitting that you all are causing issues for other players who are just trying to enjoy the game.

So... the worst that happened from the horror of seeing a rebuy screen is that some players made better mode selections going forward?

Sounds like the system is working as intended.
 
"No u"

Good contribution as always.
If the point goes over your head that’s not my fault. If you don’t like the game mechanics a mode offers, there’s other modes. People aren’t obligated to follow some made up code of behavior because you personally find it more agreeable. And, to assert that these people who you don’t agree with are automatically toxic and bad for the game, is toxic in and out itself.
 
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