Gutamaya vs core dynamics

znôrt

znôrt
core dynamics will say "here we are, fear us! hurr durr!" in global chat
gutamaya will say nothing, busy staring at themselves
then, in fine elite tradition, they will go into separate instances ...
 

Lakon Spaceway

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Clearly, the empire and federation haven't always seen eye to eye and there must have been skirmishes. Obviously, there have always been more Feds than Imps.

Leaving this ship vs this ship aside, and given that they sued for peace rather than there being an outright win, I'm guessing that when one side is massively outgunned and the other is massively out manoeuvred, the potential losses must just not be worth the domestic political fallout for either side even if they win.
 

Voracity_T

Voracity_T
Lakon Spaceway said:
Clearly, the empire and federation haven't always seen eye to eye and there must have been skirmishes. Obviously, there have always been more Feds than Imps.

Leaving this ship vs this ship aside, and given that they sued for peace rather than there being an outright win, I'm guessing that when one side is massively outgunned and the other is massively out manoeuvred, the potential losses must just not be worth the domestic political fallout for either side even if they win.
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I would say thats a good way of looking at it.

No sense in fighting when both sides stand to lose far more than either will gain.
 

Lakon Spaceway

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Deejayeff145 said:
One question- are powerplay modules involved and can they only be used by the aligned superpower?
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Yes, if we were doing this as an experiment loadouts would need to be whatever suits the shop and tactics. So, yes power play, but probably not limited to imp and fed powerplay; because, the nature of PP is that players keep switching allegiances.
 

Dillon Fallon

Dillon Fallon
Lakon Spaceway said:
Yes, if we were doing this as an experiment loadouts would need to be whatever suits the shop and tactics. So, yes power play, but probably not limited to imp and fed powerplay; because, the nature of PP is that players keep switching allegiances.
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Sorry, got into my head this was on the lines of a Fed v Imp battle not just CD v Gut.

If we're just talking a straight up scrap, as much as I love my Gutamaya ships, you can't ignore that it's a battle between dedicated combat ships and multipurpose ships. Core Dynamics all the way.
 

myothershipisacobraiv

myothershipisacobraiv
why not Lakon? clearly you've never seen a Lakon pilot perform a high-speed break and dump move with several hundred tons of biowaste.

"WARNING: Hazardous Substance Detected. Module Malfuncton... Module Malfunction"

can't call yourself a warrior until you've shorted somebody's FSD with a big jar of space poo
 

Ted Striker

Ted Striker
Speedcuffs said:
Surely the reverski shield tank Cutters would win?:((n)
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See that’s what makes this interesting. Vettes have ways of breaking those shields, so what weapons and engineering do both ships have? Prismatic shield vs two huge long range beams? Cytos? Torpedos? And what weapons will cutter use?
 

B.Roberts

B.Roberts
Lakon Spaceway said:
If we arranged a pitched battle between two sides in an asteroid ring in an anarchy system ten ships-a-side, equal numbers of large, medium (counting clipper as medium), and small per side, all Gutamaya on one side and all core dynamics on the other,... Who would win, and why?
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I don't think you can predict result of such a battle just based on some technical specifications of different ships. In the battle ten ships vs ten ships would win the side with better strategy, tactics and the skill level of each pilot. When talking about strategy and tactics I mean proper outfitting of each ship allowing to exploit its strongest sides and minimize (if possible) its weaknesses or compensate for the weaknesses of the other ship in the group, ability of the group to act under central command as a team and much more. It is much easier to predict result of the fight between two ships one-on-one but even in this case pilot's skills would play significant role unless replaced by two NPCs of the same level. BTW, I can see your point about Clipper being counted as a medium size since it is not a "properly large ship" and in everyday life I consider it medium+ myself but in this case it is too much of the target for a medium ship. It sucks Gutamaya doesn't have any midsizer.
As for the 10 vs 10 battle in general, I thing it would be nice to have a championship with series of battles (maybe different ships or different loadout in each battle) and winner is the team with more wins. Would be interesting show to watch.😁
 

Lakon Spaceway

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Okay, in a fixed number of ships skirmish, with equally millitary disciplined, drilled and skilled pilots, equally adept Field Marshalls, and the right load outs and strategies for the strengths and weaknesses of each fleet, it's a close call, but probably a Fed win. In a war, however, I think the Empire would absolutely murder them. With the larger achievable jump ranges, the Gutamaya fleet can respond, re-enforce, and resupply way quicker than the Core Dynamics fleet could dream of.
 

Speedcuffs

Speedcuffs
Lakon Spaceway said:
Okay, in a fixed number of ships skirmish, with equally millitary disciplined, drilled and skilled pilots, equally adept Field Marshalls, and the right load outs and strategies for the strengths and weaknesses of each fleet, it's a close call, but probably a Fed win. In a war, however, I think the Empire would absolutely murder them. With the larger achievable jump ranges, the Gutamaya fleet can respond, re-enforce, and resupply way quicker than the Core Dynamics fleet could dream of.
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You can't respond, reinforce and resupply when you're blowed up. :geek:✌
 

RamirezKurita

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Lakon Spaceway said:
Okay, in a fixed number of ships skirmish, with equally millitary disciplined, drilled and skilled pilots, equally adept Field Marshalls, and the right load outs and strategies for the strengths and weaknesses of each fleet, it's a close call, but probably a Fed win. In a war, however, I think the Empire would absolutely murder them. With the larger achievable jump ranges, the Gutamaya fleet can respond, re-enforce, and resupply way quicker than the Core Dynamics fleet could dream of.
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In terms of larger scale warfare, you also have to consider the significance of the capital ships though, the Farraguts are far more dangerous than the Majestics. It's also worth bearing in mind that large-scale military operations would likely see Farraguts and other megaships (including fleet carriers) being used to transport other ships around.

You should also consider the Federal-aligned engineers vs the Imperial ones, as the Feds have the majority of the FSD engineers on their side (they have both Farseer and Bris Dekker, the Imps don't have an FSD engineer and would be left trying to bargain with the neutral ones). The bulk of the Fed fleets might not be able to move quickly, but their special forces would be able to move faster than the Imperial ones.

In a large-scale all-out war, I'd also suspect that Core Dynamics is a larger manufacturer than Gutamaaya as they also maintain a civilian lineup of ships (as much as the Eagle MkII and Vulture are "civilian" ships) that are sold and operated beyond the borders of the Federation. If something serious kicked off, a fair amount of all those Vultures and Eagles that are sold every minute to non-Federal factions would be reassigned to the Federal navy instead and the despicable neutrals would find their orders for those ships cancelled.
 
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