Hacker forum and what I learned

How is the private hack superior to the public one? It seems to me you can do everything your hearts desire with the public one. Maybe it has the HUD enhancement?
FD can't analyse it and it can't detect it, especially if a person doesn't overdo in its usage.
My son's friend wrote an aimbot for a certain FPS to test his skills. He never got caught using it.
 
Had the game had a offline mode then it wouldn't have mattered, the cheating people could just be banned to offline mode to do as they please.
FDev's own fault imo.
Wonder if the 2 strikes and you're out bans them for life, cause in the UK they can then ask for a full refund (unless it has changed (which would be sad)).
 
My impression is that these are PvE noobs. I didn't see any ganker chat whatsoever. Its like a bunch of kids looking for shortcuts. They want to travel to Colonia quickly, from what I saw. Of course, this is just 1 forum out of who knows how many.
This seems like you might have accessed a group that obtained the app, and not the authors. I applaud you for your digging - please keep going!
 
This seems like you might have accessed a group that obtained the app, and not the authors. I applaud you for your digging - please keep going!
I was inspired to go digging through the search engines too. If I've correctly sorted them out, the authors are quite competent game hackers and reverse engineering aficionados. Not clear if they even play the game much, as they seem to be in it mostly for the technical challenge and approval of their adoring users.

I would also note that as far as users go, it's mostly going to be script kiddie types posting on a publicly visible forum for game hacks. Obviously if organized groups and advanced PvPers want to use these tools there's nothing stopping them from downloading it and not bragging about it in public.
 
Did you actually see any images of the HUD improvements people are now claiming we've been lied to about? (Other than a picture of some sliders on a website)
There's already a third party HUD color tool, does the alleged hack do anything differently from that?
 
Yeah, except European privacy/copyright laws and DMCA and news articles. Bunch of things Google has to answer for :)

DMCA
This
What exactly does that have to do with them "having to answer for" search results regarding cheat programs for a video game? That's what the discussion is about, not how they are expected to handle copyright claims or your personal info.
 
I was inspired to go digging through the search engines too. If I've correctly sorted them out, the authors are quite competent game hackers and reverse engineering aficionados. Not clear if they even play the game much, as they seem to be in it mostly for the technical challenge and approval of their adoring users.

I would also note that as far as users go, it's mostly going to be script kiddie types posting on a publicly visible forum for game hacks. Obviously if organized groups and advanced PvPers want to use these tools there's nothing stopping them from downloading it and not bragging about it in public.
This sort of thing is pretty common. There are websites where gamers can petition for hacks and trainers, and then hackers will create those tools based on per-game demand. The end users are just chumps, the actual hackers are in it for the challenge and kudos and could care less about the game generally.
 
Anyways, a better solution than banning hackers on FDev's end would be a "kill-pill" solution: When a hacker is detected, they get put on a watchlist, and FDev surveys and verifies individually that the user is indeed cheating. From that point on, they get put on a "kill-list," which means whenever they play ED extra code gets run in the background whose express purpose is to overwork their PC to the point of actual meltdown and destruction.

I'm sure FDev has a disclaimer in the EULA saying, "we aren't responsible for any damage to your computer that using this software may cause, etc." ;)
 
I was inspired to go digging through the search engines too. If I've correctly sorted them out, the authors are quite competent game hackers and reverse engineering aficionados. Not clear if they even play the game much, as they seem to be in it mostly for the technical challenge and approval of their adoring users.

I would also note that as far as users go, it's mostly going to be script kiddie types posting on a publicly visible forum for game hacks. Obviously if organized groups and advanced PvPers want to use these tools there's nothing stopping them from downloading it and not bragging about it in public.
Thank you for this. Makes me wonder about the appropriate response to these tools. Is it to ban the users, or use counter tools like Battle Eye, and possibly do central servers for popular instance locations...? It seems like a real mess.
 

rootsrat

Volunteer Moderator
It took me 10 seconds to find this user's forum of the Elite hacker tool that Ryan is raising the alarm about. Don't ask me to post a link to that forum here. I read a bunch of these posts, I'm up to January 2019, but here is the first one that really caught my eye:


Reading more of these posts, several things became obvious to me:
1. FDEV detects these trainers
2. Each new patch breaks them
3. Users are banned after 2 warnings
4. There are some users testing the limits to be "safe" without getting detected.
5. Comical requests for features like, "endless limpets" and "full pip everything?"
Kudos for investigating this. In regards to "3. Users are banned after 2 warnings" - any mention what kind of ban? I know FDEV can issue a few (from what they were saying on a few live streams):

1) Ban to Solo
2) Shadow ban (you're in a special server ONLY with other shadowbanned people and with no ability to affect the BGS)
3) Temp game ban
4) Permanent game ban
 
I don't believe Fdev has done anything to stop cheating/hacking/botting in this game. They need to be honest (for once) and tell us all what they are doing to punish cheaters and who has been caught and punished as well.

Otherwise I don't buy any of it!!!
 
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