Have Vista Genomics gone mad?
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I've cashed in 500 000 000 (500M) of exobiology data while being a Geneticist and have 0 progress bar updates. Is there currently a bug vis Vista...?
They raise credits needed for promotion levels, Your earned credits must surpass current requirements for geneticist now before percents will go up. It's done in patch 14.1.
pre-U14 ranks and values (5=cataloguer, 8=Geneticist, 9=Elite, 10=Elite I, 14=Elite V
-------1.5----------------------32-----------------------216-----440-----660-------880--------1100-------1320--------1540m
1------2-------3-------4-------5-------6-------7--------8--------9--------10---------11----------12----------13------------14
Post U14.1 - ranks were increased by about 15x for first rank, maybe less for higher ranks.
------22.7---------------------------------------------- 1600+---3000+------------------------------------------------------------
1------2-------3-------4-------5-------6-------7---------8---------9--------10---------11----------12----------13------------14
Note
22.7millions for first rank is based on my own calculations. That's a 15x increase
Someone else said that they were demoted from Elite V to Geneticist, which it would put Geneticist above 1540 millions, but it could be more than that, could be a flat 15x all over it
So i've put Geneticist to at least 1600millions and Elite to at least 3000
After the goalpost movement post U14.1, While you still see the Geneticist rank, your real rank is way below
Basically, lets say you had 300 millions cashed in (Geneticits), after the reranking you still have 300 millions cashed in and your real rank is somewhere around Collector/Cataloguer and you have to cash in at least 1200 millions to reach your "real" (new) rank of Geneticist before you can see the bar moving.
Post U14.1 - ranks were increased by about 15x for first rank, possibly less for higher ranks.
------22.7---------------------------------------------- 1600+---3000+------------------------------------------------------------
1------2-------3-------4-------5-------6-------7---------8---------9--------10---------11----------12----------13------------14
So, you're here
and you need to cash upto to get back to your Geneticist rank before you see any advancement towards Elite
-------1.5----------------------32-----------------------216-----440-----660-------880--------1100-------1320--------1540m
1------2-------3-------4-------5-------6-------7--------8--------9--------10---------11----------12----------13------------14
Post U14.1 - ranks were increased by about 15x for first rank, maybe less for higher ranks.
------22.7---------------------------------------------- 1600+---3000+------------------------------------------------------------
1------2-------3-------4-------5-------6-------7---------8---------9--------10---------11----------12----------13------------14
Note
22.7millions for first rank is based on my own calculations. That's a 15x increase
Someone else said that they were demoted from Elite V to Geneticist, which it would put Geneticist above 1540 millions, but it could be more than that, could be a flat 15x all over it
So i've put Geneticist to at least 1600millions and Elite to at least 3000
After the goalpost movement post U14.1, While you still see the Geneticist rank, your real rank is way below
Basically, lets say you had 300 millions cashed in (Geneticits), after the reranking you still have 300 millions cashed in and your real rank is somewhere around Collector/Cataloguer and you have to cash in at least 1200 millions to reach your "real" (new) rank of Geneticist before you can see the bar moving.
Post U14.1 - ranks were increased by about 15x for first rank, possibly less for higher ranks.
------22.7---------------------------------------------- 1600+---3000+------------------------------------------------------------
1------2-------3-------4-------5-------6-------7---------8---------9--------10---------11----------12----------13------------14
So, you're here
and you need to cash upto to get back to your Geneticist rank before you see any advancement towards Elite
While I don't care about credits at all. I care about consistency, good immersion and incentive gameplays. Where one doesn't have to do everything but whatever he likes to have fun.
Answering myself because a bit of thoughts came to my mind that make me fear the future of the game. And I may be harsh because...
Increasing amounts like that, was, IMHO, the most stupid idea I've seen in years !
The future of E : D I fear :
people will get insanely rich, probably have fleet carriers. Yeah more map pollution !
All other gameplays are now obsolete, fighting, trading, exploring. Good job ! Pay Odyssey to Win !
There are no gold sink so when player will be rich to vomit, what will they do of boredom ? Leave !
Thank for killing the game. I am really salty, sad and angry tonight.
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There is a chance Elite in exobio is somewhere around 7 billions, so yea, from Sidewinder and G1 Artemis to Carrier by doing only Exobiology.
From Sidewinder to Billionaire only with trading. That‘s no valid argument.
People ARE already insanely rich!
you wont get 7 billions out of trading using ONLY a sidewinder
But you could… sure, stupid.
The guy who is flying to the center or roundtrip in a sidewinder…
What does it change anyway? There are no real adventages, when you own a full Carrier.
Ok, they are.
So let's go, it's time to break next gameloops!
100m for refuelling NPCs in distress signals when?
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some are...... considering my time in the game i am not (still a long long way from a fleet carrier) - admittedly this has historically been my choice. i am ditching some of my in game rules - at least temporarily - until i can get a fleet carrier and cover its costs for 12 months or so
Some "tru" explorers claimed, how much time/skill and knowledge you need to do exobiology, how difficult is this activity, and "how far" you have to travel to find some first logs.
So I have some sample- today I visited 20 systems WITHOUT 3rd part tools/spansh/r2r.
10 of them had exobio signatures, so I scanned all planets with them (and took all possible samples).
TL: DR
Today, in few hours I earned 530 millions, so more than 10% of cash for carrier. By doing activity, which I could do even in sidey, with some luck even in bubble, because sometimes I still see some unlogged species inside colonised space
Sure, we need "a lot of time" to travel, and find first logs, yeesss
So I have some sample- today I visited 20 systems WITHOUT 3rd part tools/spansh/r2r.
10 of them had exobio signatures, so I scanned all planets with them (and took all possible samples).
TL: DR
Today, in few hours I earned 530 millions, so more than 10% of cash for carrier. By doing activity, which I could do even in sidey, with some luck even in bubble, because sometimes I still see some unlogged species inside colonised space
Sure, we need "a lot of time" to travel, and find first logs, yeesss
did anyone say that about exo biology? some of the organisms can be a pain to find (fungoida) but in general it is well paid, risk free with no cash investment needed. and you absolutely not have to go far out for 1st scanned.
unless.......
I am more interested in getting full 1st scanned systems Inc exo bology , with systems with a WW or ELO.
you do have to go further afield for those. indeed I only ever found 1 ELW ... and I forgot to make a note of the damn thing (gutted)
unless.......
I am more interested in getting full 1st scanned systems Inc exo bology , with systems with a WW or ELO.
you do have to go further afield for those. indeed I only ever found 1 ELW ... and I forgot to make a note of the damn thing (gutted)
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Yes.
But I'm not gonna mine in dozens pages of few different threads
PS: first discoveries? Last time I started finding them 1200ly to sol. Even not bubble. To sol.
you are doing better than me. don't get me wrong it's easy to find dead or dying systems but an untouched system with an ELW? I am currently over 5000ly from the edge of the bubble and as soon as I come across any interested system it has already been visited (usually cherry picked the good stuff from)Yes.
But I'm not gonna mine in dozens pages of few different threads
PS: first discoveries? Last time I started finding them 1200ly to sol. Even not bubble. To sol.
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was lucky enough to get a full untagged system having an ELW 1700 ly out of the bubble, the cherry on the top being a moon with 8 bios
I did a retrieve mission lvl 1, used everything I had to not die in a 1 vs 5 with a maverick lvl 2 and 2 weapons lvl 1 and got 85000 cr.
I scanned a fonticulua which was near the wreck (I didn't search at all), < 3 mn -> One million... (I didn't retrieve any credits, I've got an idea...)
I scanned a fonticulua which was near the wreck (I didn't search at all), < 3 mn -> One million... (I didn't retrieve any credits, I've got an idea...)