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Engineers How do we get Elvira Martuuk to level 5 on FSD engineering?
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Bob Lighthouse
Banned
I'll let you deal with it, I've had enough. And, your correct with your response.
Lol
Glad you got your modules finally!
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My understanding is that this is not a given as there's a randomness in the number of rolls to max a grade, it's possible to max any grade on a module without automatically unlocking the next one. I also asked if G5 had been previously unlocked, and have not had a straight answer. The poster apparently only noticed they did not have G5 available when they returned to the engineer's base. If you didn't unlock G5 then surely you'd notice at the time. But... they had a pinned blueprint which they had been using and remote engineering does not increase reputation. I strongly suspect G5 was not unlocked and some of those G4 modules were remotely engineered. That in summary is why I'm not getting it.
Edit: N.B. prior to 3.0 this was more explicit, as you could apply any grade you had previously unlocked to an unmodified module in one step, rather than progressing each module through the grades in order, so the two were separate. Now you must progress a module through grades, so it's easier to mix up progressing a module and unlocking the higher grades.
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Your issue is just in communicating your meaning, as it was with others, including support. It is quite correct that since the modules were fully-modified at G4 then no further applications at G4 of the same recipe could be done on htem and therefore there was no way to increase level of access using those modules / lasers.
Support should have been clear that all he had to do was buy a module at Bro's outfitting and do some throw-away mods on that to increase his access level.
TL/DR Communication was deficient.
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Every Engineer I've hit since 3.0 dropped, which is most of them, was done to max with one module. What are the odds that op could have rolls so good across 2 modules @ grade 4 that he wouldn't get enough rep while still unlocking normally to grade 4? Something clearly didn't make sense.
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Low... unless the G4 blueprint was pinned (Do you even need to apply a single G4 to do that? Could be done after G3 maybe, but I'm about 20kly from my nearest unlocked engineer so can't check that one) and the modules were engineered remotely, in which case you could do 50 of them and not unlock G5. The repeated complaint has not been that G5 is not unlocking while engineering modules, it was that G4 modules can't be used to unlock G5. That's a slightly different thing. And despite the 'how are you not getting this' they've still not answered that question, post at the start of page 2 seems to imply at least some of it was done remotely.
By remotely engineering to the maximum at G4 which is the level of access he had when he pinned the blueprint. Hence no further "rolls" could be done on those lasers when at the engineer's base to enable him to achieve G5 access.
It is not difficult to understand if you just think about it logically - blueprint pinned when only G4 access - remote eng to max G4 - can not not do another G4 mod on those lasers when back at the engineer's base - so unable to progress to level 5 access using those lasers.
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I think the problem is, you, and perhaps others, are trying to look for a "rational" answer, to a problem/issue/bug/quirk, that's never going to have one. I'm saying that with reasoning/understanding, not to be snarky. I've got 13 engineers at grade 5, so I'm not new to this.
Simply put, like the original poster, I had achieved "beyond" grade 4 access with this engineer. I took multiple modules currently in my possession to that engineer, and couldn't "craft modules", to further increase my rep. I should have been able to use "any module", "regardless of grade", "whether it had been remotely engineered or not", in my possession, to further my rep with that engineer, "at their base", and not have to start all over again at grade 1, with a new module.
The module itself should have no bearing, influence, on whether I can upgrade an engineer or not. Once a grade at the engineer has been reached by physically going there and "crafting modules", it's been reached, the module in use should have no bearing. Whether it was grade 2/3/4 should not matter at all, I've aready completed "beyond" grade 4, and only need a few more "rolls" to reach grade 5, "I'm done with grade 4".
Broo was already "beyond" grade 4, so any module should suffice for upgrades, by "crafting modules". I can't "remotely", by using a pinned blueprint, craft a module further than the grade I've already achieved at the engineer (if you can that's a problem that needs addressing), nor can I increase my rep, so the modules grade should not come into play at all, or be an issue when I take it to the base to further my rep by crafting modules. I want to use "that module" which is currently "below" my current access level, and craft modules to increase my rep.
I've finished the grade 4 requirements at Broo's base, so it shouldn't matter "how" the module I'm trying to use to upgrade at the base, was upgraded, even if it was done remotely. I can only "remotely" upgrade that module to a level at, or below, my current level at the engineer. So, my grade 4 modules were finished grade 4, and my access to the engineer was grade 4.5, there should be no issue using those grade 4 modules to further my rep. They had no bearing/influence/affect in increasing my rep, if was already done at his base with perhaps other modules, so why should I not be allowed to use these modules to increase my rep, at his base.
In other words, I can't posses a module that has a higher grade than my current access at an engineer, it's physically impossible as far as I know. I have grade 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0 lasers. So, any module should be acceptable to use to further my rep, considering I'm at grade 4.5 with the engineer. If this isn't how the system works, then that's another issue that needs addressing, but it's the first time I've come across this situation in getting 13 engineers to grade 5.
That's it, that's all, it shouldn't have been the case, or be the case, but it was, end of story.
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Bob Lighthouse
Banned
Ftr, I've done thousands of G5 engineering mods alone, literally...
I also unlocked all the main engineers except Jameson anew, between late Nov and now, on a new account.
All of them are at G5:
(Note it's sorted by access level)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxPsK-OU0AMC8BM.jpg:large
You will actually unlock the next level before you finish the modification at that level.
There IS a bug with this stuff.
There are a couple of other threads.
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