How long will Elite Dangerous rule the world of space games?

I don't know if I'd consider Star Citizen a runner up as it seems a long way from being out of alpha with only one star "stanton" system and far from their initial goals of it. "Dual Universe" imo has a far better chance as a serious contender to ED when it releases. I'd agree NMS is a default runner-up , and the X3 games and maybe StarTrek: online.

Oh god yes, if it only had multiplayer.....

Why is it EVERY space sim game is always ALMOST perfect save for one feature....

It's because the software game dev tech isn't there yet. People got so used to ED and took its high achievements and bar setting such as the galaxy starbox as one example, for granted. To implement more personal assets for spacelegs, atmospherics, and personal bases, etc. gameplay would probably require a revamp or major upgrade to resources available for ED. The X3 games are really mapped on overall 2D "scrabble" sector maps with compass direction gates with literally a limit of less than 50 or so 3d spaces/systems with many economic looped entities and tied assets to the single player, while ED has hundreds populated in the bubble and billions of star systems. For X3(s), it was just to much at the time to add multiplayer. Currently, it looks like it could have multiplayer (didn't the X4 devs say they were going to put basic multiplayer into X4?) , but not full blown MMO with extensive personal assets and persistence on top of it's player instigated economic "ant-hill" systems. Star Citizen and their scores of dream trailers also ramped up the hype and expectations cross genre, but they are really nowhere close to even their first trailers which tried to pass of as "two years in dev already" among other well known dubious CIG-arrets marketing tactics often discussed already. Maybe by luck, some major shareholder entity of Frontier could prioritize on the board, ED's future over the other Frontier labels, somehow mitigating the concerns of diminished profitability for Frontier for each ensuing fiscal year. For persistent assets, spacelegs etc., ED's networking infrastructure may have to be majorly expanded with significant further investment like dedicating a growing datacenter just for an asset hungry mmo game on over billions of 3d locations for hundreds of thousands of individual player accounts, which may have to justify monthly charges, or more paid and continual DLC.
 
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I don't know if I'd consider Star Citizen a runner up as it seems a long way from being out of alpha with only one star "stanton" system and far from their initial goals of it. "Dual Universe" imo has a far better chance as a serious contender to ED when it releases. I'd agree NMS is a default runner-up , and the X3 games and maybe StarTrek: online.

Good points.

I include SC because you can buy and play the alpha today, and you get something similar to ED and NMS, albeit in one star system.

While I'm a Dual Universe Kickstarter backer, from what I've seen so far it's truly an open world sandbox without any "missions," "story," or "npc governments" so to me it feels different.

Star Trek online could definitely be a contender but last time I played both the space ship and first person combat was (imo) aweful :-( But (imo) with a few refinements I think it could be really good.
 
Oh god yes, if it only had multiplayer.....

Why is it EVERY space sim game is always ALMOST perfect save for one feature....

They have to specialize, no one game can do it all.

My pet gripe with the X-series is a simplistic FM, but they are great mogul games nonetheless.
 
I`m very curious what new X game will bring to the table, I dont dislike the Rebirth as much as many others, I actually really enjoy it especially after updates (yes including infamous space legs haha).

X and ED don't really compete, they compliment each other.

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X and ED don't really compete, they compliment each other.

Weird.

I've been playing through X:BTF, X2:TKT and am now on X3:Reunion for the umpteenth time, since February when Passenger missions were murdered.

X seems to be monopolising my time of late, and will probably continue to do so until 2019.
 
Does Red Dead Redemption 2 count if I pretend my Cutter has a holodeck I'm accessing it from?

Best horse hunting game ever made.
 
Weird.

I've been playing through X:BTF, X2:TKT and am now on X3:Reunion for the umpteenth time, since February when Passenger missions were murdered.

X seems to be monopolising my time of late, and will probably continue to do so until 2019.

It just means you like that style better, which explains your chronic complaining here. I prefer ED and pes over cod, doesnt mean ED competes with cod.
 
Weird.

I've been playing through X:BTF, X2:TKT and am now on X3:Reunion for the umpteenth time, since February when Passenger missions were murdered.

X seems to be monopolising my time of late, and will probably continue to do so until 2019.

When I want to play as a galactic mogul I crank up an X-game since that's what they are designed to be, and what they are good at. When I want to play as a lone pilot in a galaxy sized galaxy with a fantastic flight model I crank up ED, for the same reason. It would be weird to insist on playing one whilst complaining it wasn't the other, instead of just switching whenever you feel like it.

Horses for courses, different sub genre's.

I also have freespace2 and mods installed for whenever I fancy some mission based campaigning.
 
Dual Universe, Angels Fall First, X4: Foundations and Infinity: Battlescape might change that.when they get released.
 
Horses for courses, different sub genre's.

For me it's just that a 20 year old space game like X:BTF, is more fun than ED. Not as pretty by a long way, but you can't have everything in a game.

If I was prompted to mention a game in a different genre (or sub-genre, or sub-sub-genre) to ED and X-Games...I'd say Assetto Corsa, or WH40K Sanctus Reach.

Both of which, are also more fun than ED right now, and also compete with it...for my time.
 
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Oh, I don't over analyse things to that level of minutia. Oh...hang on...that's not right...I do.

But in this particular case, it's nothing to do with genre, further than they are both space games.

For me it's just that a 20 year old space game like X:BTF, is more fun than ED.

Not as pretty by a long way, but you can't have everything in a game.

If I was prompted to mention a game in a different genre (or sub-genre, or sub-sub-genre) to ED and X-Games...I'd say Assetto Corsa, or WH40K Sanctus Reach.

Both of which, are also more fun than ED right now, and also compete with it.

It's important to know your own preferences, that way you can make informed purchasing choices and avoid feeling the need to hang around whinging a game wasn't what you were expecting.
 
It's important to know your own preferences, that way you can make informed purchasing choices and avoid feeling the need to hang around whinging a game wasn't what you were expecting.

If only that were true at the point of risking skin in the game, unfortunately...the information provided at the time (turns out) was about as accurate as most game genre classifications have been over the years. Not much more helpful than the barcode found on the back of the cassette case. A point which has already been discussed at depth, many times. Maybe that's why witnessing cases of blanket ideology, being sold as one persons opinion, is as much fun as anything else around here.

It's the solypsistic little troublemakers, that believe they can become helpful through "bandwagoning" the official brief, who don't have any skin in the game that you want to look out for.

Agenda's rarely stay hidden for long around here though. Regardless of which "sub-genre" you try to hide them in.
 
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If only that were true at the point of risking skin in the game. A point which has already been discussed at depth, many times.

It's the solypsistic little troublemakers, that believe they can become helpful through "bandwagoning" the official brief, who don't have any skin in the game that you want to look out for.

Agenda's rarely stay hidden for long around here though. Regardless of which "sub-genre" you try to hide them in.

There is no agenda, conspiracy, official brief or secret illuminati plan. I'm not really a bot, if you look closely you can see the hat and moustache were just photo shopped onto a publicity shot of heroic pilot Alan Carter from Space 1999.


That's exactly what a bot would say.
 
There is no agenda, conspiracy, official brief or secret illuminati plan. I'm not really a bot, if you look closely you can see the hat and moustache were just photo shopped onto a publicity shot of heroic pilot Alan Carter from Space 1999.


That's exactly what a bot would say.

Is it half past already?

Crazy Ivan!
 
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