I funded this game and got exactly what everyone else wanted. At least there are no more games from my childhood that can be exploited. No wait, X-Wing vs T.I.E Fighter remains to be reshaped by developer tunnel vision making it into a contemporary online-only parody of itself. I blame assassination withdrawal for my poor attitude.
How many of you don't play anymore?
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I'd take that with a massive pinch of salt. He's said a lot of things since kickstarter that didn't turn out to be what we actually got. It's the vision thing, their vision is to have big game hunting, if we'll get it or not is another story.
End of the day I would be pessimistic about the expansions going off past form from FD. Worst case oreo is that you are correct and they're not all that, if they actually turn out to be great and you can big game hunt on alien planets then that's a bonus.
Took a break from the forums for a while.
Came back yesterday, Wow! It's the same people constantly moaning.
Truly incredible the fortitude some of these cats have. It seems they won't be happy until everyone is as miserable as them.
However, I also saw a much more positive vibe from the vast majority of posters.
I guess I'm saying this because I have a feeling there's a whole lot of us who got really put off by the general tone this forum, we just gave up on the community here.
Perhaps it's a hoot to complain all day instead? Maybe.
Came back yesterday, Wow! It's the same people constantly moaning.
Truly incredible the fortitude some of these cats have. It seems they won't be happy until everyone is as miserable as them.
However, I also saw a much more positive vibe from the vast majority of posters.
I guess I'm saying this because I have a feeling there's a whole lot of us who got really put off by the general tone this forum, we just gave up on the community here.
Perhaps it's a hoot to complain all day instead? Maybe.
I was being sarcastic actually lol - I couldn't think of anything worse to have in the game - hunting in a space simulator - ok, anything else we want to arbitrarily add? How about whack-a-mole too?
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If all you can do is insult other people, perhaps you should go away again for another extended break - don't let the door hit you on the way out
I was being sarcastic actually lol - I couldn't think of anything worse to have in the game - hunting in a space simulator - ok, anything else we want to arbitrarily add? How about whack-a-mole too?
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If all you can do is insult other people, perhaps you should go away again for another extended break - don't let the door hit you on the way out
What I said was insulting?
Hokey doke.
see ya.
I was being sarcastic actually lol - I couldn't think of anything worse to have in the game - hunting in a space simulator - ok, anything else we want to arbitrarily add? How about whack-a-mole too?
I can actually see the point to it and if it turns about to be a good addition for the game then I'll happily go hunting.
Variety is the spice of life and the spice must flow.
I'm just skeptical due to hearing stuff like this before and what you actually get isn't what was described or is the bare minimum implementation to be able to claim it's been done.
I was being sarcastic actually lol - I couldn't think of anything worse to have in the game - hunting in a space simulator - ok, anything else we want to arbitrarily add? How about whack-a-mole too?
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If all you can do is insult other people, perhaps you should go away again for another extended break - don't let the door hit you on the way out
He never said anything insulting, all he said was he is sick and tired of people moaning and groaning!
Ironic that he's moaning and groaning about the moaning and groaning then isn't it.
The best thing to do if you see threads that you don't agree with is to ignore them.
If you don't like what's being said then stay out of it and the thread will eventually drop off page 1 and it'll sink to obscurity.
All you are doing by posting in such threads in keeping them on Page 1 and generally making yourselves look like berks. It's enabling behaviour.
You aren't going to shut people up, you aren't going to stop people pointing out the game's flaws, why this should bother people the way it does is quite telling. It's saying that these people are insecure about their purchase and need to defend it to justify to themselves that they made a good purchase, which is quite sad really.
Fixed that for you. It's a discussion forum, if you can't handle criticism, then you should stay away.
Also this. The way people take it personally when others point out flaws or areas of improvement within the game is straight up bizarre.
To the OP: The people I know logged in for the update and the overall impression was meh. There's still not much of a game to be played. I think it says a lot when simply having enemies to fight is considered an accomplishment, even when they are just random spawns.
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So you were flying around in your empty anaconda?...
One would think that your reasoning is obvious... Ah well
Checking in to see if anything has changed. Wings. Guess not then.
Played about 3 weeks, loved the flight model, combat, initial learning curve. Realized how utterly dead the universe is and stopped playing. I did not play in '84. I watched the trailers, listened to DB describe this seeming vibrant, living galaxy, read the professional reviews (shouldn't have put my faith in people that play a few weeks and post a "review"... my mistake) and bought in. After a week or two it hit me. There is no true reason to care about anything in the galaxy. The economy is based off of nothing, the enemy ships are just spawning target drones with no purpose other then blowing up, factions couldn't care less if you support them. Take a mission, go to area, wait for USS to spawn, enter, kill target drone or pick up package. Rinse, repeat, and it doesn't matter anyway. 400 batrillion zillion star systems, but you've seen it all if you've been to about 20. "Seeking luxuries! We have all this stuff but are really just here so you sell us mass quantities of one item over and over. Don't bother trying to interact with us." Black markets that you can only sell to. Mining is ridiculous, and affects nothing. Warzone? You'd never know when you fly into it. Why aren't there smoking hulks of ships, damage to stations, NPC chatter going crazy over comms, pleas for help from NPCs, REASON to care?!!! Bah, I could go on and on. $60 isn't a lot of cash for me but I still feel rather because I think I got fooled into buying based off the hype. Not a fan of the USS and SC mechanics but I could live with it if some of the above was handled.
Two things HAVE to change to make this any kind of game IMO. 1. Persistent NPC's with life/purpose and reactivity. 2. An economy based off of something also persistent goods. All the rest of the issues can probably be fleshed out with time to make the galaxy feel alive. Those two though would at least add some depth and reason to your game play.
Still checking in here and there to see if anything is happening with the game. Not happy I got duped into buying a tech demo.
Played about 3 weeks, loved the flight model, combat, initial learning curve. Realized how utterly dead the universe is and stopped playing. I did not play in '84. I watched the trailers, listened to DB describe this seeming vibrant, living galaxy, read the professional reviews (shouldn't have put my faith in people that play a few weeks and post a "review"... my mistake) and bought in. After a week or two it hit me. There is no true reason to care about anything in the galaxy. The economy is based off of nothing, the enemy ships are just spawning target drones with no purpose other then blowing up, factions couldn't care less if you support them. Take a mission, go to area, wait for USS to spawn, enter, kill target drone or pick up package. Rinse, repeat, and it doesn't matter anyway. 400 batrillion zillion star systems, but you've seen it all if you've been to about 20. "Seeking luxuries! We have all this stuff but are really just here so you sell us mass quantities of one item over and over. Don't bother trying to interact with us." Black markets that you can only sell to. Mining is ridiculous, and affects nothing. Warzone? You'd never know when you fly into it. Why aren't there smoking hulks of ships, damage to stations, NPC chatter going crazy over comms, pleas for help from NPCs, REASON to care?!!! Bah, I could go on and on. $60 isn't a lot of cash for me but I still feel rather because I think I got fooled into buying based off the hype. Not a fan of the USS and SC mechanics but I could live with it if some of the above was handled.
Two things HAVE to change to make this any kind of game IMO. 1. Persistent NPC's with life/purpose and reactivity. 2. An economy based off of something also persistent goods. All the rest of the issues can probably be fleshed out with time to make the galaxy feel alive. Those two though would at least add some depth and reason to your game play.
Still checking in here and there to see if anything is happening with the game. Not happy I got duped into buying a tech demo.
Know what you mean, even with the sometimes quirky FoR switching, seamless landings were incredibly immersive, even if there was no other reason than for the thrill of it - such as touching down successfully on a planetoid that you weren't FoR-locked to, or making it down onto the hard surface of the core of a gas giant - and just imagining the immense pressures, temperatures and radiation beating down on your hull.
I'm seriously skeptical ED will ever be able to recapture those feelings, any more than it does those of realistic spaceflight. The absurd speed limit would seem to preclude seamless transitions, too, yet a planet would also mass-lock the FSD so Braben-only knows how that's gonna work. Pitching a perfect orbit from a ground launch, playing with ballistic re-entries... the pinnacle of flight sim gaming... all that good stuff is gonna be off-limits with a speed limit in place.
Sigh.. something i used to enjoy in flight sims was reaching for the limits - seeing if i could hit mach 2 at 70,000 ft then pitch up, punch through 90k ft and lose all airflow, floating uncontrollably for a few minutes before plummeting back down, to earth, turbulence, and terminal velocity.. the thought that ED might only be able to offer FSD transitions or, worse, loading screen animations makes me shudder.
Jex=TE= put it well, as in, what the heck for?? I must be missing something. Big game hunting embedded in ED? It's a
mismatching of gaming concepts, like the Suez Crisis popping out for a bun...
I really hope it never happens, it's stupid. Why waste time on such sillyness when instead they could be doing cool
stuff like improving how stars are portrayed so that they actually do some of things we know they do, eg. nova effects,
material suckage in binary pairs. Something I already want to see changed is the fact that some old stars are actually
quite cool at their surface & certainly would never cause overheating to a ship, ie. one ought to be able to get not just
close but even inside the outer layers, that'd be freaky as heck, and an interesting place to hide if being chased.
Ian.
I've loved Arma since the OFP days. Some years ago i actually wrote Bohemia a short letter thanking them for making a game that recaptured much of what made Elite so great. A few months later they released OFP: Elite for the Xbox..
You gotta hand it to them, they're one company that's really understood their game's strong points and continued to capitalise on them. Despite the Codemasters OFP 2.0 debacle they picked themselves up, dusted themselves down and went straight back unto the breach with Arma.
ED is to Elite / FE2 what OFP2 is to OFP / Arma.
Exactamundo. I fully expected E4 to be a work of towering genius, expanding on the game in the same way FE2/FFE did over classic Elite, displaying, requiring and appealing to intelligence over pulp arcade kicks, substance over style. Something introspective, alive in its procedural wizardry, uncompromising to flimsy convention. Instead, it's like a Codemasters parody..
That was an excellent summary of what needs to be done to improve the game. Re NPCs, see my comments, opinions welcome (it's the '#' note after
the PS at the end of the post, ignore the main post body).
Ian.