None of that changes the fact that allowing private groups to have such a massive influence on the open world is nonsensical and contradictory.
Modes How to incentivise Open without buffing its rewards
- Thread starter Powderpanic
- Start date
None of that changes the fact that allowing private groups to have such a massive influence on the open world is nonsensical and contradictory.
And the entire game design and concept from the start.
Deleted member 110222
D
I think after several years of the modes being equal, OP should have realised the game he wants, isn't the game FD wants to make.
I hate to break it to you PP, but you're nobody. Don't worry. I'm nobody too. Anyone who hasn't got the ability to post orange posts is a nobody. Frontier are making the game they want, not yours.
And seriously, why do you care so much about what a Solo player does? All I see is that you have some sort of desire to exercise control over him. Why is this?
I hate to break it to you PP, but you're nobody. Don't worry. I'm nobody too. Anyone who hasn't got the ability to post orange posts is a nobody. Frontier are making the game they want, not yours.
And seriously, why do you care so much about what a Solo player does? All I see is that you have some sort of desire to exercise control over him. Why is this?
So was offline mode.. Bad design philosophies can and should be binned.
Feel free to take that up with FDev, and not the players utilizing the modes as they were introduced then
Feel free to take that up with FDev, and not the players utilizing the modes as they were introduced then
Well I'm writing on the frontier forums so... ?
Deleted member 110222
D
Indeed, and Frontier aren't giving you squat. That says something.
Advocating for restrictions to other gameplay modes, or suggesting that one mode be promoted above others in order to achieve your own agenda isn't "taking it up with FDev".
That's an attempt to change gameplay for others who utilize the mode system the way it was intended (as it was introduced).
Indeed, the message couldn't be clearer, but it definitely doesn't prevent people from attempting it over and over and over again.
Powderpanic
Banned
Have they ever gotten involved in mode debates though? I'm not really expecting them to...
All the back and forth in that other thread I posted probably got the suggestion more exposure to Fdev than any normal suggestion ever would, so good job everyone.
I really appreciate the work BGS focused PvE groups do, and respect peoples desire to enjoy the game with out being forced to be content for others, but there should be incentives to play in Open. It's the first option in the list and I imagine FDev wanted it used. But currently the risk v reward across the board is pretty low, it's true of missions when comparing average PAX with elite level assassination missions for example, and it is true of the 3 modes..
Would you feel it was wrong then for players who risked more by playing in Open to receive a larger reward, would you consider that a nerfing of solo/private group only players?
I think the undermining mechanic suffers a lot from being just as profitable in Solo, as Open. The weeks I undermine in Open (for my own pleasure) I actively see it harm my power, who are far better off if I just farm merits in solo, or in a wing in private and then drop a merit bomb on a Thursday morning.
You don't even get any merits for killing wanted/enemy pledged CMDRs.
It does seem crazy for this to be the case. If the game is meant to be Single player first and foremost, why is it the third option down?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying get rid of other modes, and I love that we all contribute to this universe while playing the game the way we want. I just think balance is FDevs weak spot, and (imo) risk v reward in Open is second on that list, after Engineers negating any weakness a ship was designed to have.
Last edited:
So? I can post what I like as long as its within the rules of the forum.
They've never taken a side, they stay out of these debates.
I thought the OP was about personal reward for doing missions etc.
No idea what any of this faction/inter-faction/bgs/mmo stuff is, or means. Obviously heard the words, but never seemed relevant.
Deleted member 110222
D
A forum? For a video game? It's a revolutionary idea! I bet nobody thought of that!
Don't be fooled. The existence of an official forum does not mean FD will start developing the game by it. After all these years, this should be apparent.
Also, you didn't answer my initial question. Why do you care so much what a Solo player does? Why do you think he deserves to have his game experience reduced just because he doesn't want to entertain you, a random stranger?
Which suggests they are sticking to the status quo. Certainly, they aren't suddenly going to tell Solo players that their gameplay is going to be nerfed to "satisfy" people who happen to enjoy PvP.
Those aren't facts, those are opinions. Yours. And other than taking up printed space on a forum they will have no effect on the opinions of others who disagree with yours.
Question: If you are really trying to get the game changed, why are you wasting your time trying to convince players, who cannot change the game, that the game needs changing? Wouldn't it be better to present your arguments to Frontier? Just off the top of my head, that would potentially be much more effective than the back-and-forth going on here.
Are you just trolling, or truly seeking change? If it is change you seek, you're barking up the wrong tree here...
I did present the idea to Frontier in the suggestions forum - but the thread was hijacked by naysayers who managed to get the thread moved and then subsequently locked because of a 'circular argument' or something.
Goose4291
Banned
I can think of 40,000 (ish) players who would play open in a heart beat - if you remove PvP from it.
Hows that for an incentive
Citation needed to confirm that the 40,000 playerbase is comprised of active, still playing individuals
Then I suggest you contact Frontier directly.
Step is right, they made a "Time out" step and put all talk about bonuses to open or messing with the mode system on the "time out" step.
You want to make a thread promoting messing with a well documented and well known core feature of the game; of to the time out step with you.
Your punishment for such a naughty thing to do is spend time with Jockey and his Wall of Information.
Well if you want to silence people not playing the game anymore, then who will complain about the mode system?