Thx for this link, can't find anything to defend the lack of communication from them about this. If in the future the renderingtarget tweak stop to work, we are screwed and looks like it's not high enough on the priority list :c
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Thx for this link, can't find anything to defend the lack of communication from them about this. If in the future the renderingtarget tweak stop to work, we are screwed and looks like it's not high enough on the priority list :c
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I'm shocked by it. Technical difficulties I might have accepted, but arguing it's a low priority shows how disengenuous the marketing is.
3rd party tools + brute force it is then.
3rd party tools + brute force it is then.
Why not instead of people giving their opinion of how it runs for them, they show the logs from Afterburner or PrecisionX that show the FPS. Then if someone does have a solid 90fps then we can look at what settings and then what hardware they are using and it should be easy to recreate the same performance.
Right now all we have are people saying it runs great on their system or runs bad on their system with no proof or quantifiable data. It does not matter if someone thinks it runs great on their system we need logs to show it is indeed running great on their system. Their hardware specs and settings don’t matter until it is confirmed how it is actually running and that can be proven by the logs.
A lot of people don’t notice re-projection when it is on and think everything is running fine when in fact they are running at 45fps. The judder they are seeing is when their fps drops below 45fps.
Performance is one thing I can live with dropping some settings down to help boost it , for me the overriding factor is image quality specifically the text.
If I can't read the text for longer than a few mins without getting a headache then I'm not using it.
I'm quite frankly stunned that anyone can think it's acceptable in its standard format ie. no steam config SS.
On a par with the lab ?? Not a chance !
So unless FD pull their finger out we can all forget about a "fix" for our current gen device.
Very disappointed to hear it's on a "list"
If I can't read the text for longer than a few mins without getting a headache then I'm not using it.
I'm quite frankly stunned that anyone can think it's acceptable in its standard format ie. no steam config SS.
On a par with the lab ?? Not a chance !
So unless FD pull their finger out we can all forget about a "fix" for our current gen device.
Very disappointed to hear it's on a "list"
I mean if FDev would say, "hi guys! listen, we need you Vive users to contact Valve customer support and let them know we need their help to improve our Vive performance"...the fact is we'd do it and Valve would be in touch with them. It's one of the most high-profile VR games on the market and was regularly marketed front and center on Steam's homepage. Have they asked Valve for help? If not, is it because they don't need it? If they don't need help, why has this been 6 months and counting without a fix? Valve is very responsive to developers as it regards VR issues so I can't imagine they'd be any sort of hold-up. They'd very much be happy to help make sure the game is performing well with their hardware.
This all just looks worse and worse for FDev. It's heart-breaking, really.
This all just looks worse and worse for FDev. It's heart-breaking, really.
That's immaterial. We're here for Elite Dangerous. We all know there are other games we can play. We want to play this one. You shouldn't need anyone to tell you that on a DEDICATED FORUM. Don't be embryonic. Find somewhere else to be dismissive of concerns. The STICKIED THREAD DEDICATED TO THE ISSUE is not the place. Derp.
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You realise that sounds a little desperate? Especially with your last derp "argument".
This is just flat out wrong. FD marketed that they were supporting the Vive and they have done next to nothing to support it. A real shame and it will effect my buying choices in the future. The VR folks may not be your largest subset but they have passion and disposable income. They are the folks who will have top end systems and show people how awesome you game is...or is not.
Unless I'm mistaken, one source of performance differential is down to the type of ship you are in. Those with a large field of view require greater processing power than those with more restricted views. Eg. Asp Explorer > python.
Yep. The amount of stuff in view is a factor. I was getting smooth performance while canyon running in an imp fighter, but when I inverted so the ground was above me I lost every other frame.
Well we all know that people can be sensitive about things, but the post was written in a pinch and salt sarcastic way to point out the absurdity of not providing promised support. Maybe I should just post that open letter on their Facebook, link it to Twitter and Reddit ect... That might get some interest. The point is that either we call it false advertising or a lie, but both is the same for the end user. If I say that I sell fresh apples and I sell you rotten apples then it is a lie and that is what FD is doing.
And you are definately Faster than Jesus
And you are definately Faster than Jesus
Ian Phillips
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Posted insulting missives towards the developers is not the way to go when trying to bring something to their attention.
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You are right. That is why there was nothing insulting. Except the "Do not lie" which was clearly with a pinch of salt and I did say in the letter that I'm using it as an exaggerated descriptive word for False Advertising. The whole post was written in a sarcastic manner - I give you that , but we have the right to be sarcastic now considering the length of time it is taking to deliver a fix.
Simple matter of fact - Saying that Vive is the superior experience for ED is factually incorrect (David actually said it himself during Vive Pre-Order) - there for a ...... Saying that Vive is fully supported as their banners indicate is factually - ..... incorrect .... therefor a ...... LIE... I could go on, but I've backed my words with threads and what has been said in past by David or FD.
But you are right. Instead I should probably make a really long video showing the differences in "Support" of Vive and Oculus and then cut the video with all the statements from Braben and Frontier and make it into a comic relief video. It would probably be more descriptive and I could give tone to my words
. Maybe even make them sung in a little silly song (yes I'm sarcastic here. Nobody got time for that )Anyway at this point I give up. I have spent too many minutes of my life trying to voice my concerns regarding the Vive support. I have little time as is, so I'll leave you moderators to do what you feel must be done and I will simply ignore FD, ED and David from now on as I can't trust the word... the word of FD until they show me otherwise... That was the point of the letter in a nut shell.
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Javert
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Just a reminder - it's against the forum rules to publicly contest moderator decisions.
If you have had a moderator action taken on your posts that you disagree with, please follow the process to contact the community managers to appeal against it (e.g. send a PM to Brett C).
We all hope the any Vive issues will be fixed by FD, but this is probably not the best way to draw attention to the issue. The devs have stated on multiple occasions that they will ignore posts that are rude and disrespectful. Keep in mind that on the written page, a post can come across in a very different way to what you believe your intention was.
If you have had a moderator action taken on your posts that you disagree with, please follow the process to contact the community managers to appeal against it (e.g. send a PM to Brett C).
We all hope the any Vive issues will be fixed by FD, but this is probably not the best way to draw attention to the issue. The devs have stated on multiple occasions that they will ignore posts that are rude and disrespectful. Keep in mind that on the written page, a post can come across in a very different way to what you believe your intention was.
Point taken. I'll leave my thoughts to myself
. Intention ins't to make anybody upset, but simply draw attention to the issue in an "inventive" way. I find it rude that Devs don't take a minute in 4 months to update us on this thread they have started them-selves. I would also like to point out that we are already being ignored Hence the "inventive" open letter, but I'm not contesting the Mods Decision. It is up to you guys how you run this forum and I will respect that.
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Javert
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One other thing I will add.
I was at the Elite meeting in Birmingham last weekend listening to the Dev Q&A, and I do not remember anyone saying that fixing Vive issues were "Low priority" or "way down the list" in the way that's been portrayed in this thread. If anything, a polite request that you've heard this was said and can we get some clarification might be a better way to go.
(it's possible I missed that bit, but I certainly don't remember hearing that).
I was at the Elite meeting in Birmingham last weekend listening to the Dev Q&A, and I do not remember anyone saying that fixing Vive issues were "Low priority" or "way down the list" in the way that's been portrayed in this thread. If anything, a polite request that you've heard this was said and can we get some clarification might be a better way to go.
(it's possible I missed that bit, but I certainly don't remember hearing that).
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...r-the-VIVE-graphics-issues/page2#post_4567024
The real issue is a lack of formal response to this thread, or other appropriate location. Hence hearsay.
The real issue is a lack of formal response to this thread, or other appropriate location. Hence hearsay.