I hope DW2 gets ganked all the way to Beagle Point.

It's Open and how FD designed the game, you may wish to call them for doing so but the rules are plain for all to see. FD supports, enables and encourages ganking in open; to not recognise these facts and turn up in open in a explorer build is foolish.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you write - however, I was commenting on the "It was in a low sec system", as if that mattered or not. As a proposed argument, that nugget of "low sec" is pure handwavium, and we all know this, so I'll thank you, sir, for not coming back at my point with words that are not directed at the actual point I was making.

Cheerz

Mark H
 
It's Open and how FD designed the game, you may wish to call them for doing so but the rules are plain for all to see. FD supports, enables and encourages ganking in open; to not recognise these facts and turn up in open in a explorer build is foolish.

The thread is about events that took place in a non PvP PG, not Open.
 
Way to read. Those who were live streamed being killed by low lifes deserve what they got. They were warned and let their pride get in the way. No refund of anything for people in live. It has to be in the player group and they have to follow specific instructions.

Take a chill pill and relax.

Now for those poor fellas who have nothing better to do. Thousands made it without you even being able to see them. Let that sink in. Thousands you couldn't kill for your content.

And it was EPIC - amazing to be part of it - makes me feel all warm that we are playing *TOGETHER* on this endeavour. Brilliant.

Repped :)
 
If the PG's rules actually prohibited PKing, then player damage would be turned off. But it is not turned off. So PKing is perfectly fine despite the arbitrary rules. It is incumbent on the owners of the PG to kick from the group people who PK. It is not incumbent on FDev to do so.


It appears that you are the type of person that thinks it is "OK" to make an agreement that one never intends to abide by. Is this true? That you find it acceptable for a person to just disregard the agreements that the person makes?

Careful with making those comments on the internet :)

Mark H
 
Blaze your own trail, indeed.

Unless you're an organised screenshot taker. Then you get special favours from the GM.

Did you just make that up? Because that's what FDEV says on the issue:

Hello Commanders,

Just wanted to take a moment to clarify that we deal with each ticket on a case by case basis and being killed in a private group that doesn't allow PVP is not basis for an automatic reimbursal. Our support team will ensure that they (as they always do!) treat each ticket and it's circumstances fairly, and if we can help we will.
 
Am I understanding DW2 is being ganked? This isn't a new problem... It's a very obvious clear problem that's simply been ignored for years! Indeed, when I was playing more regularly it was exactly this sort of mindless toxic ganking that made me move to Mobius for any sort of community based gameplay!

But the core problem is not with OPEN, it's with the fact there's no effective C&P mechancics to rein in this mindless toxic behaviour to any degree at all in these situations.

In my case I was participating in the Thargoid reveal - which the FD staff wisely did in a private group, I wonder why? - and on reaching the final location, with a myriad of other similarly outfitted exploration craft, within a few minutes the dedicate combat wings of gankers turned up, popping exploration ships with their fully engineered combat ships in seconds.
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But C&P alternations CAN rein this in. Not stop it, but rein it in! All that needs to be done is non-government systems to not default to anarchy... An anarchy government should be required to create an anarchy system and to actively suppress notifications of crimes. If there is not a government in a system, it should not be anarchy, and crimes should still be reported, and therefore illegal destruction held accountable. Done!

In short, at its simplest, all that needs to be done, is this...
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I suggested this a while back, fed up with the pointless ganking happening at locations such as the latest exploration/alien find - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...nking-All-via-a-tiny-change?highlight=anarchy


In conclusion, it's a known issue. It's been known for years... It can be addressed and reined in to some degree at least. But at the moment, the game is totally ignoring it.
 
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sollisb

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Hello Commanders,

Just wanted to take a moment to clarify that we deal with each ticket on a case by case basis and being killed in a private group that doesn't allow PVP is not basis for an automatic reimbursal. Our support team will ensure that they (as they always do!) treat each ticket and it's circumstances fairly, and if we can help we will.

Hi Paige,

Can you clarify; What is/are the rules surrounding joining a Private group, agreeing to that groups ethos/terms/rules with no other aim than to kill it's members?

It is my understanding that doing so is a breach of EULA?
 
IMHO, no DW2 ship whether in the PG or in open should be restored unless destroyed by a genuine bug. As others have said, this is elite dangerous, if you head off into the black in a stripped down ship for a highly publicised event then expect pirates. Genuine question: did those 600 kills generate a bloom of HGE's?
 
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