Fair enough. IMO you are missing out the opportunity to meet an ally or identify an opponent & maybe negotiate peace. That sentence is pretty much my motivation to keep playing. Can you see that's something I would not want to lose?
I’d like more commanders in the Open
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Fair enough. IMO you are missing out the opportunity to meet an ally or identify an opponent & maybe negotiate peace. That sentence is pretty much my motivation to keep playing. Can you see that's something I would not want to lose?
I know whose game it is
I am interested in your opinion. On the risk of being attacked.
Just goes back to the point I've posted so many times over last few years that certain areas need to be safe zones and the crime/security system actually needs to work. There's nothing to stop gankers and pirate groups attacking anyone anywhere once they've earned enough credits the whole crime system is superseded.
Secondly there really isn't any difference between low or high security systems.
In my mind HIGH security should be full of military ships in great numbers who respond instantly to a criminal where as low security is exactly that.
Doesn't mean everywhere should be high security just means the risk to reward needs to scale. In my mind visiting an engineer is a high risk task but getting zapped 1 second off the landing pad as I've seen happen is just what.
Secondly there really isn't any difference between low or high security systems.
In my mind HIGH security should be full of military ships in great numbers who respond instantly to a criminal where as low security is exactly that.
Doesn't mean everywhere should be high security just means the risk to reward needs to scale. In my mind visiting an engineer is a high risk task but getting zapped 1 second off the landing pad as I've seen happen is just what.
Robert Maynard
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Simple - the consequences of destruction are imbalanced between the attacker and the target.I know whose game it is
.... and, this late in the game's development, are highly likely to remain so - simply because those who like to destroy other ships have got used to the status quo and would be likely to be rather put out should the consequences change significantly.
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I don't know how successful it's been but that's what we have with the starter zone isn't it? I assume all the ganking in Deciat has effectively replaced what used to happen in LHS 3447 & Erevate.
"This late in the game's development" my game was turned upside-down by the pointless removal of the old discovery process. I would not want to lose my remaining motivation to play. So assume it could happen, because it still can. What else might get changed on the whim of a designer several years after customers bought the game? There is no longer any trust on which one can make an assumption.
I liked the game I bought. I'd like to be able to continue to play that game within reason.
Robert Maynard
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It is true that not all players found that change to be palatable - which rather supports my point.
We don't know - until it is implemented.
Maybe for some - however that cannot be assumed to be the case for all players.
it has been asked for, i think it would be a good starting point but they don't seem to like the idea.
if that alone would increase the number of players in open i don't know. some could enjoy safe passages in open much as it were solo, so why not? (plenty of reasons not to, but besides the point). otoh, would it contribute to open gameplay becoming more rich and meaningful? i don't think so.
I for one welcome the inclusion of persistent ATR, as most villains do.
The current implementation is a joke, as the timer is reset every time you jump out of system.
And although it's a recurring joke that Gankers fly 2D FSDs I can assure you that's pretty much gone since at least the days of ATR.
But I assure you, Gankers will adapt to persistent ATR, but the "casuals" won't, so we'll see a plethora of threads to "nerf ATR".
The current implementation is a joke, as the timer is reset every time you jump out of system.
And although it's a recurring joke that Gankers fly 2D FSDs I can assure you that's pretty much gone since at least the days of ATR.
But I assure you, Gankers will adapt to persistent ATR, but the "casuals" won't, so we'll see a plethora of threads to "nerf ATR".
I'll ask you what I ask everyone suggesting the draconian: is this for all crime, or only the poopoo meaniehead greeferz?
You know its so easy now to make creds now I just can't understand why people still won't play open like they are afraid or something, I actually like seeing other people playing in the game and those occasional heart pounding moments of some maniacal monster trying to kill me, but I like adventure 'so' maybe I'm different that way.
Of course it's only for the gweefers.
Until you suddenly get suicideeagled again.
Then the wailing from Jameson Memorial will be heard up to Colonia
Robert Maynard
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Why should they have their time wasted being engaged in an activity they have little to no interest in?
Did you actually think this through before commiting it for comment?
I enjoy doing missions from my 'home' station that involves 'taking care' of dissidents, deserters and (BGS influence) even civilians, very often in the same adjoining system. I will be a criminal completing any of these missions... Yet you are suggesting that by taking on missions to support my faction I should be banned from a system for doing so? Somehow I am unable to put my support behind such a suggestion, sorry.
I would like to see this implemented in your particular instance, then have you being fined for taking too long to clear the pad/station a couple of times
Think about how many 'crimes' you can commit just leaving or entering a station, then apply your solution...
You don't understand, young padawan.Did you actually think this through before commiting it for comment?
I enjoy doing missions from my 'home' station that involves 'taking care' of dissidents, deserters and (BGS influence) even civilians, very often in the same adjoining system. I will be a criminal completing any of these missions... Yet you are suggesting that by taking on missions to support my faction I should be banned from a system for doing so? Somehow I am unable to put my support behind such a suggestion, sorry.
I would like to see this implemented in your particular instance, then have you being fined for taking too long to clear the pad/station a couple of times
Think about how many 'crimes' you can commit just leaving or entering a station, then apply your solution...
This is only for player killers of course.
It's still an absurd suggestion.