I’d like more commanders in the Open

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But you are implying you do give one fun about your image. See, I knew you cared :)
I had a fairly different situation but I never cared about my image, I cared about the impact my ganking had on other things I wanted to do and players I wanted to interact with. I also saw how a certain player that didn't gank or care about this stupid game of "what side are you on" and how he could freely do whatever he wanted.

After finally getting a badass gaming PC and starting a new game of Elite with a clean slate and an all new player base that has no clue who I am, I decided that all I want to do now is PvP with anyone and everyone that wants to and maybe some occasional pirating. I also have a fairly good wealth of knowledge of the game that I would like to use to help other players as well.
I've also been playing with the idea of being a mercenary for hire. You want me to escort you from Borann to your sell system? That'll be 10 diamonds. You want me to assassinate another player? That'll be 50 diamonds
Not sure how well I'm gonna be able to sell my services with only a competent combat rank though lol.
 
I've also been playing with the idea of being a mercenary for hire. You want me to escort you from Borann to your sell system? That'll be 10 diamonds. You want me to assassinate another player? That'll be 50 diamonds
Not sure how well I'm gonna be able to sell my services with only a competent combat rank though lol.
I do hope your CMDR name is different from your forum handle, Sir Escortsalot or something, otherwise that's going to be another hurdle.

The response to Sandro's idea was overwhelmingly in favor, especially among those who actually played Powerplay.

Then the usual crowd of entitled mode zealots brigaded the whole thing into the dust.
I find it amusing you blame the 'entitled mode zealots', it means 2 things.

1. You believe Frontier listens to it's players. You should know better. I'd have the ADS back if that were the case.
2. You would rather point the finger at other posters who have just as much right to air their opinion, than the actual culprit who makes the decision independent of what the community thinks. I'm sure we are also to blame for Sandro's departure.

And for irony, the zealots arguing for OOPP, sound very entitled indeed.
 
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I do hope your CMDR name is different from your forum handle, Sir Escortsalot or something, otherwise that's going to be another hurdle.


I find it amusing you blame the 'entitled mode zealots', it means 2 things.

1. You believe Frontier listens to it's players. You should know better. I'd have the ADS back if that were the case.
2. You would rather point the finger at other posters who have just as much right to air their opinion, than the actual culprit who makes the decision independent of what the community thinks. I'm sure we are also to blame for Sandro's departure.

And for irony, the zealots arguing for OOPP, sound very entitled indeed.

After all this this time, I know that you can do better than "no u", Ziggy.

I do hope you're feeling alright.
 
If you look at the last few pages you'll see theres only half a dozen of you left in an echo chamber so ofc you think everyone agrees with you. Just for the record, we don't.

Thargoid Invasion - stupidest idea ever with 2 minutes thought. What will a new player have ion 2 years time, oh, nothing, they wont be able to play so the sales will go down, its quite simple. And wanting all players to be affected, not your choice, its up to them if they do miningor trading or explo and dont give two hoots for repetetive button mashing that is combat

youre making the mistake that you are the centre of the universe and you are so wrong, both in RL and in game. Fdev listens to the 90+% who don't want PVP, get over it and stop describing EVE as the model for ED to follow, its not even original and just go play EVE.
 
This is a great post. And I am a pirate. I completely agree.

But dont you think Fdev put al that defense buff in to protect carebears? Backfired huh. Kind of like an over abundance of NPC interdictjons or them dropping in in my instance. So great.

If that was their intention it backfired spectacularly, I agree. However, better protection wouldn't cut it. Not being forced into pvp is what they want as far as I understand it.
 
You’re making the mistake that you are the centre of the universe and you are so wrong, both in RL and in game. Fdev listens to the 90+% who don't want PVP, get over it and stop describing EVE as the model for ED to follow, its not even original and just go play EVE.

this is where you’re missing the entire point of everyone’s feedback who want more. None of us want to be able to singlehandedly change the face of the elite galaxy (except maybe explorers with that first discovered tag). Like in RL, alone you won’t make much of a mark. But in RL when a large group of people work towards a common goal, change can and often does occur. That is what players are asking for. That is why powerplay is an appealing idea, but once players realize it doesn’t allow them to be a part of that large cohesive movement that can impact that sandbox, they quit and as such we can see the current state of PP reflected in that reality. It’s the same reason players like the BGS. Because a cohesive group affect can alter the elite dangerous sandbox in some ways. It’s why an idea like an alien invasion that players most work together to stop or see real in game consequences is appealing.

that’s what people want, it’s what FDev keep halfway doing and therefore not doing, and that’s what frustrates so many players.
 
Some people, that's what some people want.

look up echo chamber if you didn't get it.
I’d argue it’s what most people want considering that’s typically one of the metrics successful game design is measured against across genres. But most likely they want it in regards to their preferred activities which would be fine and understandable and still provide value indirectly to the groups who don’t prefer those activities. You could do to follow your own advice when it comes to thinking the naysayers like yourself are somehow representing the majority as well.
 
I only speak for myself. I don't use phrases like 'everyone' or 'people' to imply I speak for anyone else.

I speak to many Cmndrs in the game, a couple know of the forums, the rest have no use for it. They do have one thing in common, they think the game is the best thing ever and play it almost every day.

more than a couple only explore and that's it, they have no interest in anything else at all, go figure, they don't want PVP or even combat in any form, they want to fly a spaceship through space so they do.

Some do AX for combat grind to get Jameson unlocked or for the rank.

Obviously I'm different to them, but I accept that they have a place in the game that I cant and shouldn't impose my view on. I paid for my game, they paid for theirs and neither of us can impose our playstyle on the other.

There is no and has never really been a PVP career in ED, gankers destroyed the honour bounty system by having no honour so that killed that off and incidentally probably stopped a lot of people even trying PVP as bounty hunters.

ED is not interested in being 'across game genres' if you don't get that then its you who are entirely missing the point. Elite is a game genre.
 
I cant and shouldn't impose my view on. I paid for my game, they paid for theirs and neither of us can impose our playstyle on the other.

Since this is your actual point, I’d like to know in what way anything I said literally at all in my response to you about people wanting “more” and in what way wanting the actions of coordinated groups to be impactful is in any way imposing a playstyle?

youre countering an argument I did not make.
 
Depends on your definititon of 'coordinated actions' to me in a System with billions in population, a handful or even a squadron shouldn't be able to make a difference that affects every player in the game.

How can 'impactful' outcomes not affect every player, even the solo ones who don't give two hoots, is it not reasonable that these 'impactful' outcomes are limited by design to not impinge on others playstyles? Other MMO's are generally run by a handful of egos who have too much impact on other playstyles. If you want that, like I said, go play EVE instead of trying to make ED more generic.
 
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