Modes If Open is to get something exclusive then PG and Solo also need something

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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
To maintain the idea that all modes are treated equally, in order to compensate for the (potential at this time) loss of PP, PG/solo players need something in return.

My suggestion would be NPC wingmen. Its a long requested feature, and maybe a part of the DDF (?), so why not make it exclusive to PG/solo, where winging up is more difficult or not possible.

Thoughts? What do you think PG/Solo players could get in return?
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
In my opinion the modes are not that equal, solo/PG have a fundamentally less threatening galaxy compared to open.

I'd love to see the results of the last bounty hunting community goal Top10s for example. I'd bet a lot of credits on having most of the Top10 pilots in PG, because it's just a difference if you can use a PvE optimized bounty hunting ship or a ship that can at least do some PvP. And the results of trade CGs won't differ to that propably.

So at least for CGs, solo and especially PG offer already a big advantage to open.

Edit: no offense to the poster above me, but open only is a big no-go. Some rewards for open ok, but not open-only.
 
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William H. Bonney

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wouldn't that further the divide?

The original idea of of Power Play was for the PVP crowd so Open-only makes sense to me. I do however agree that we should be able to have the ability to have a NPC wing, it shouldn't be denied to people who play in Open, but do not do Power Play.

P.S. i don't do a lot in Open and i only did Power Play (in solo/private group) for the bonus modules, i'm not affiliated with anyone at time of writing.
 

Lordxenu

Lordxenu
I get the idea but I can't say I agree I mostly play solo and for me powerplay has been a grind for modules mode.

If I liken it to call of duty (please don't hurt me!) You get the single player campaign and a whole half of the game (multiplayer) is online PvP only powerplay feels like elites multiplayer (given that cqc, whilst awesome, unfortunately doesn't really work due to player count).

That's my thoughts I'm very much in favour of powerplay only being open only as long as nothing else goes that way.
 

lokvette

lokvette
Wolf Starslayer said:
Nothing, those from other groups need to have the good grace to see ED is changing and to accept a open only game.
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I read some utter godswhallop on this forum and you can read that in the voice of your avatar.

So one long forgoton aspect of the game PP has FD coming up with some changes and they offer out for to the rabble for feedback and all of a sudden the game is doing a 180 no a 360 with kick back, and we all have to what was it; "have the good grace" to be under some sort of clouded narrow mineded view that because and again FD are just thinking about it PP might become open only other things even though FD have said they wont, the game will become open only and FD is going to drop PG and solo.

Theres a word for the post I quoted some would call it hyperbole or somthing, I call it utter Bull.

Oh as for the OP, yeah NPC wingmates or crew would be cool but dont see it happening, no wait I can jump on the bandwagon and belive its going to happen, yeah thats it the game is going open only right...
 
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Skizomeuh

Skizomeuh
As a solo guy playing in PG and who never touched PP (I didn't expect PP going open only would raise so much pitchforks btw), I would love more interactions with NPCs. Like conversations through MCQ system, possibility to wing, missions involving cooperation between NPC and player...
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Skizomeuh said:
As a solo guy playing in PG and who never touched PP (I didn't expect PP going open only would raise so much pitchforks btw), I would love more interactions with NPCs. Like conversations through MCQ system, possibility to wing, missions involving cooperation between NPC and player...
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Yeah, NPC comms have a lot of uses. Could be useful for NPC piracy as well, demanding NPC traders drop some % of cargo. Ask for too much, they will run or fight, ask not too much, and they might drop, depending on what you are flying and your combat rank.
 

lokvette

lokvette
Powderpanic said:
So years of protection from potential challenge, hasn't been enough for you?

You aren't losing that from the majority of the game.

Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
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I feel no protection from anything nor do I need it, the challange I get from ED is the one I set for myself not the one anyone else thinks I should face. If I want a challange I have other games for that and RL for that matter.

PP open only has no effect on my game so Im all for it, PP should have been a thing for people to fight for from the off, why it wasnt open only from the off still boggles me. Even if the modes are ment to be equal some of it should have been more rewarding or have more effect for those who chose to pvp. I think thats why pvp has never been for me in ED nothing to fight for bar epeen. (spent many years doing pvp in other games but even with capture the flag there was somthing to fight for or over)

IF PP was done right then yeah it would be somthing to fight for, as it is its not thus I tried it and after a few weeks though bollox to this, I was folowing the reddit for the power I joined so I was working for the greater whole and no just the modules.
 
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Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
Agony_Aunt said:
To maintain the idea that all modes are treated equally, in order to compensate for the (potential at this time) loss of PP, PG/solo players need something in return.

My suggestion would be NPC wingmen. Its a long requested feature, and maybe a part of the DDF (?), so why not make it exclusive to PG/solo, where winging up is more difficult or not possible.

Thoughts? What do you think PG/Solo players could get in return?
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My thought is, that Solo/PG players had always and will always have the benefit of actaul NO risk of being killed by other players.
Isn't that already enough? :rolleyes:

Mouse said:
The complete separation of the BGS from PP. Open affects PP PG/Solo affect BGS
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It should more be the other way around. Since BGS is also only affected by players, it's the same way a PvP activity like powerplay. If anything, than BGS should also be open only but FDev stated already, that they won't touch that (yet).
 
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Mouse

Mouse
Lucius-Darcia said:
My thought is, that Solo/PG players had always and will always have the benefit of actaul NO risk of being killed by other players.
Isn't that already enough? :rolleyes:



It should more be the other way around. Since BGS is also only affected by players, it's the same way a PvP activity like powerplay. If anything, than BGS should also be open only but FDev stated already, that they won't touch that (yet).
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And here we have the pandora's box... Sandro thinks about giving you and others an inch and you want the whole game...
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
MrSleepin said:
participation trophy. that's what you can have for playing in pg/solo
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Woo hoo!

Lucius-Darcia said:
My thought is, that Solo/PG players had always and will always have the benefit of actaul NO risk of being killed by other players.
Isn't that already enough? :rolleyes:



It should more be the other way around. Since BGS is also only affected by players, it's the same way a PvP activity like powerplay. If anything, than BGS should also be open only but FDev stated already, that they won't touch that (yet).
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On the other hand they don't have the benefit of making things easier by winging up with other players. Touche?

Open is easy against NPCs in wings. You can absoloutely dominate a CZ with a wing in Open. Not possible in solo.

Also no reward of meeting people. Remember the mantra, open is great because of all the cool things that can only happen with other people! Open is its own reward!
 
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