We're letting Missions dictate our gameplay now?
We're not Commanders anymore, we're sheep.
Baaa
"Play your way"
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News Implementation of a dedicated mission server
We're letting Missions dictate our gameplay now?
We're not Commanders anymore, we're sheep.
Baaa
"Play your way"
Member that?
rootsrat
Volunteer Moderator
What is the point of having missions and the whole background sim if we can just tell the game what we want? They may as well introduce "Gief 10000000 Cr" button.
Blazing your own trail doesn't mean you can have an insta-win button. It means you can do whatever you want - that includes being a taxi driver - but within the systems in the game. Mission system is part of the game. A simulation. Wanna maximise your profits? THINK. And play the GAME rather than the system. Go around all stations in the system and pick missions to 2 or 3 destinations. You will still fill up your ship with missions. The only difference is that you'll need to go to 2 or 3 different systems instead of just 1. You'll need to fly your ship a bit more. And flying the ship is the whole point of this game, no?
Do you really think that "play your way" means getting everything on a silver plate for an insta-win type of gameplay, just because a player can't be bothered to spend extra 15 minutes going to 2 or 3 systems rather than just 1? Sorry, I don't think this is how the game is meant to be played. That's not even an opinion. It's a fact, because luckily for me the devs seem to be of the same mind
Yeah, 2-3 years playing this game.
Now sudenly he becomes the "wrong game for me - and alot of people - " because you and a few say it? ahh... i don't think so.
FDEV clearly stated that they are NOT changing anything except for the 10% raise in payouts. We get the same broken piece of crap mission system which we got now, without the possibility to work around it by board switching. That's probably gonna be the point when I will no longer feel motivated to launch E
It's not like I would use board switching often. I do it for a few days to get enough money for the things I really wanna do. This already is an annoying time gate mechanic for me which I dislike a lot. If they wanna time gate me even more I don't see any reason to continue "playing" E
I have an Anaconda and a T-10, and never had that issue, using the Ana for mixed cargo/passenger hauls and the T-10 for mining/cargo hauls. Flew an Orca for passengers for a while, but replaced it with a Dolphin. You must either not be looking in the right places for missions, passengers and cargo, or maybe you don't mix and match? Or do you only expect to fill your cargo space only with whatever is most profitable? Do you always expect to be running with a full load? Either way, it seems the enjoyment factor is being reduced by trying to get the game to do something it won't and shouldn't.
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Hey FDev, I appreciate the effort with the extra server to increase perfomance and all that. But why to use the capacity to do more with the mission board at some point? Here let me give you a few ideas, once you got some free time:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/448113-Use-the-opportunity-to-move-mission-board-to-dedicated-servers-FDev-for-an-Mission-Board-Overhaul!
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/448113-Use-the-opportunity-to-move-mission-board-to-dedicated-servers-FDev-for-an-Mission-Board-Overhaul!
That's such a silly argument.
What if "my way of playing" is to press a button and immediately get 10 billion credits? I can't do that? Well, this game must suck.
rootsrat
Volunteer Moderator
No, it doesn't become a wrong game for you, because I say so, but because your expectations for it don't meet the game's principals. The principals are that the missions are generated randomly to random destinations, based on the background simulation. Thus not always offering optimal choices for the player. Thus making the player use their brain and think of other ways to optimise their earning rate (if that's what they are after).
Your expectation is for the game to always offer you optimal choice - filling your big ship with 20 missions to the same destination, probably also paying over 10 million each or whatever.
Your expectations will never be met and you will always be disappointed. Ergo - this game may be not the best game for you to play.
I agree with this. I don't habitually board flip (or instance flip). Play the hand you're dealt.
The problem with playing this way of course is that your rate of progression isn't as good as someone that does - this update should address that and level the playing field. That this loophole hasn't been closed for years (and so players have become complacent about it) and FDev have been pretty lax in describing it as unintended behaviour are unfortunate, but it is still better to close it so the intended natural progression rate can be more tightly controlled by the game designers.
Who knows, we may never have needed mats for engineers if this loophole had been closed earlier in the game's development cycle.
Patronise the customers much, mate?
Explained this to YOU, AT LENGTH.
Show a little respect and try reading it eh
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rootsrat
Volunteer Moderator
Patronise the customers much, mate?
Explained this to YOU, AT LENGTH.
Show a little respect and try reading it eh
[Edit: Oops, forgot link]
I am not FDEV employee. I'm a volunteer moderator, a player just like you.
I think you're missing the point of the post I was replying to in this thread. The poster specifically said they are upset, because they cannot fill their beluga with passenger missions all to the same destination.
Show a little respect and try reading eh?
I am not FDEV employee. I'm a volunteer moderator, a player just like you.
I think you're missing the point of the post I was replying to in this thread. The poster specifically said they are upset, because they cannot fill their beluga with passenger missions all to the same destination.
Show a little respect and try reading eh?
I did, before the linked post, while you're clearly failing to read the multitude of responses attempting to point out why the current system is disappointingly unrewarding in terms of fun for those who would like a simulator with any reference to the reality of logistics in the 21st century.
I am also a volunteer game moderator, and have been for many years and quite frankly I find your persistence with the "credit my account with a billion CR" narrative both patronizing and seriously lacking in imagination.
Have you ever stopped to consider that the world might not be entirely populated with greedy little min-maxers that just want the whole game on a silver plate, right now?
It's ok mate, enjoy the bliss only one thing can provide
[Edit: Did you read the link? I'm assuming you did not.]
I did, before the linked post, while you're clearly failing to read the multitude of responses attempting to point out why the current system is disappointingly unrewarding in terms of fun for those who would like a simulator with any reference to the reality of logistics in the 21st century.
I am also a volunteer game moderator, and have been for many years and quite frankly I find your persistence with the "credit my account with a billion CR" narrative both patronizing and seriously lacking in imagination.
Have you ever stopped to consider that the world might not be entirely populated with greedy little min-maxers that just want the whole game on a silver plate, right now?
It's ok mate, enjoy the bliss only one thing can provide
[Edit: Did you read the link? I'm assuming you did not.]
As someone that is or has moderated heated discussions in the past you should be well aware that the way forward in any debate is to ignore the way in which a message is conveyed and address only the points raised.
Sometimes there is nothing left to respond to.
Mhm, which is why I posted this, nine days ago, in this very thread.
If Amazon processes 636 items per second, in 2016 on one planet...
So you have already posted a view, pre-empting this. It will not disappear, the forum keeps a record. Naturally others may subsequently disagree with your view. Repeating it only serves to frustrate, the very thing you are complaining about.
As a moderator of another part of the internet I'm sure you can appreciate the need for self-moderation too.
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Actually no, I googled reality and used it to help describe the sheer volume of goods and services that must be traveling around the Elite Dangerous universe to prevent the NPC population starving to death.
Kind of ironic really. Moderating the other part of the Internet often turns out to be a thankless waste of time and effort as well. Maybe one day I'll learn, and stop.
Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today.
Arguendo
Volunteer Moderator
How many of those items from Amazon are being delivered by some random independent contractor that shows up at their doorstep asking if he/she can deliver some stuff for them?
If you want reality, then you have to include all of it, not just selective parts.
Rough overview of 2015 growth in 3rd party logistics due to:
Quote: “The ‘I-want-it-now, if-not-sooner’ consumer demand
Arguendo
Volunteer Moderator
How is that relevant? You are not a 3rd Party Logistics company. You are a random guy with a truck, trying to make a buck.
Only a tiny, tiny fraction of world goods are available to random guys with trucks, as it is in Elite. The major difference between Elite and RL is that you can't get a semi-permanent contract with the companies in Elite, only stay an independent guy with a truck.