Is anyone else finding themselves playing the game much less since Arx came in?

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I think for long time cosmetic player arx actually allows you to be a cheapskate instead of paying the standard price for everything.

What they also did was make a cheap option of everything as well, so if you're spending your balance, you can choose the cheaper option and not buy more arx, or even better, choose the cheaper option and get one of another category and not buy arx.

This bags new players with a greater spend for the desirable items sure, but old players who arent so intensely after a particular item can often just choose a basic model and have way much more for the same arx (and save on buying more.. if you are frugal about it you'll win).

The earning part in game doesn't even get felt when you look at it next to actually wanting to buy something. That was the point im sure. Even if you wait until you have a good balance before buying the cheap arx package to get your thing or similar, it can only be frustrating how long it took compared to what you receive for the smallest arx bundle.
 
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Uh no.. Yeah im the same. I have some relatives with steam accounts, and spied their thousands of hours on team fortress (just an example). I used to chuckle at how there were so many more games out there.. then elite happened.. now im embarassing.

I think elite is strange, there's one safe zone (likely because frontier dont touch it) which is the truck simulator + pottering around the sandbox play style. This core is immutable and works. The problems start as soon as you engage their marketing, because every single time it creates expectations in all aspects far different to reality and disappoints directly from doing this. I can only imagine its because their marketing thinks mainstream action oriented steamers are the people who play for thousands of hours, or at least they refuse to stop trying for that demographic. Only frontier know if their current approach is better or worse for them, but from a personal perspective.. truck sim in space works. Hype and following along with frontiers social experiments leaves you winded every time. If only frontier actually followed through with their marketing we could just shut up and move on. Just doing a quick account myself for every feature ive been around for... yep thats really how its been.
The ads do seem to attract a lot of PvP players, and they appear to have a lot of issues with the game: difficulties with instancing, difficulties with getting mats for engineering their meta FDL's, etc. I guess when the ads show ships chasing other ships round and lots of shooting then it should not be a surprise PvPers are attracted to the game, and are then disappointed because allegedly it's not very well set up for PvP. I say allegedly because I'm a space trucker, miner and sometime explorer in-game, so I really have no idea about PvP. But for space trucking, mining and exploring, ED is bloody good imo.
 
Just that really. For some reason I just have hardly run the game at all since these Arx things appeared. I don't really know why but I suspect it might be a reaction to the game sort of putting a value on what you have been doing. I am not interested in earning Arx (I can buy some if I want anything) so am not looking at maximising the awarding of them. However in over four-and-a-half years I have never gone more than a few days without playing and yet in the last two weeks I have hardly run the game at all.

Anyway, this isn't a complaint or a rant or a whine - just interested to know if anyone else has experienced this.
I havent played more than 10 minutes since the last patch disaster, but i think that the idea of earning arx during play would be a disincentive for me too.
I dont like being put in the position of tacitly endorsing a micro transaction scheme designed to conceal the cost of purchases from buyers, dont want to be complicit in such a thing, even passively.
 
I havent played more than 10 minutes since the last patch disaster, but i think that the idea of earning arx during play would be a disincentive for me too.
I dont like being put in the position of tacitly endorsing a micro transaction scheme designed to conceal the cost of purchases from buyers, dont want to be complicit in such a thing, even passively.
If you have a basic grasp of mathematics and a calculator then it would be impossible to conceal the cost of a purchase from you. So are you just being dramatic, or do you not have a basic grasp of mathematics and/or a calculator?

Oh, and it was an UPDATE disaster, not a patch disaster. The patches were to fix the many bugs introduced by the update...
 
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If you have a basic grasp of mathematics and a calculator then it would be impossible to conceal the cost of a purchase from you. So are you just being dramatic, or do you not have a basic grasp of mathematics and/or a calculator?
I do. Many dont or wont be bothered to make the calculation, especially with the in game arx rewards muddying the water.

BTW, since you seem to have a grasp of things and i havent played the game in a while, what is the cash value, USD, of 10 arx?
 
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I hate maths and do have a calculator and arx is bloody annoying. Every single time i've thought about making a purchase the calculator has to be used its just stupid.

Who cares about fools you need external tools to use the store now.
I'm not too bad @ maths. Next time you want to make a purchase send me a message and I'll try to convert it into real money for you. If I can't work it out then it definitely should be banned!
 
The ideal sales transaction is one where both parties are happy with the deal. What you may not be happy to pay, someone else might. And vice versa of course.
Seriously tho, if you really want to negotiate the best deals, read Never Split The Difference by Chris Voss. It's entertaining enough to be easy to read, but it's also a real eye-opener regarding getting the best deal for youself while keeping the other party happy.
 
I'm not too bad @ maths. Next time you want to make a purchase send me a message and I'll try to convert it into real money for you. If I can't work it out then it definitely should be banned!

The only other store ive had reasonable interest in is swtor (ea company, just mad a billion overall they're loving it). But you dont need a calculator in their store. Apparently letting stupid people (like myself) know how much funny currency im going to need is more important than tricking me apparently. Frontier can't even work out which whale or boat is the largest so figures.

Noobishness aside it does make sense, you probably should be focusing on your new shiny not getting a calculator while suspecting you're being tricked before you make it to the counter. Better things to worry about etc.
 
The only thing bothering me a littel bit is, that just because of ARX a ton of bugs have been introduced - but they seem to get fixed. Else I couldn't care less about Arx. For me the shop was fine as it was. But Arx doesn't give me headaches, ohter then wasted dev time and new bugs because of it. If it somehow earns Frontier more money, good for them.

I just hope, for Frontiers sake, it won't lose them money because it reminds people on all the other stupid stores of most of the other recent online games, where you get stars and hearts and shiny rainbow treasure chests for logging in just to buy a lucky coin to get some more of that virtual rubbish shinys.
 
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Arx hasn't effected my game play at all tbh.
Still seems inbalanced but I ignore it anyway.

I haven't bought any Aex either and not intending to until something decent is released.
 
Being a serial forum moaner is just so sad and negative imo. Coming onto the forum and moaning about a game the serial forum moaner doesn't even play anymore is strange and obsessive behaviour imo. Pointing out how weird and sad that behaviour is, that's just an observation.
Exactly. If I stopped playing I'd be gone from here and be over on the forum of whatever game I'd switched to, getting noob advice.
 
Exactly. If I stopped playing I'd be gone from here and be over on the forum of whatever game I'd switched to, getting noob advice.
Exactly. I would be too busy enjoying the new game: trying to understand the game mechanics, and loving every moment of it! THAT would be normal behaviour imo, but then again I have never been much of a whinger - it's such a waste of time and energy!
 
I'm actually a healthcare professional. Not that it really matters, all businesses are the same: you have to make more money than you spend so that you end up with a tidy profit. And for that reason I get rid of whiney customers as quick as I can, they are bad for staff morale, they don't spend enough, and they take up too much time, so they eat into your profits. Best to concentrate on loyal customers: they spend much more, they're great for staff morale and pretty much all the time I spend with them is on the services we provide, which we get paid very well for.

Funny on my side of the reality, healthcare is regulated by government administrations and having a quality system entirely dedicated to assessing customers complaints is pretty much a law you need to comply to if you want to stay open.

Not that it's relevant in the current thread neither. We both bought a game sold as a service with a life cycle directly related to player retention. Bad analogies are bad.
 
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