The ads do seem to attract a lot of PvP players, and they appear to have a lot of issues with the game: difficulties with instancing, difficulties with getting mats for engineering their meta FDL's, etc. I guess when the ads show ships chasing other ships round and lots of shooting then it should not be a surprise PvPers are attracted to the game, and are then disappointed because allegedly it's not very well set up for PvP. I say allegedly because I'm a space trucker, miner and sometime explorer in-game, so I really have no idea about PvP. But for space trucking, mining and exploring, ED is bloody good imo.Uh no.. Yeah im the same. I have some relatives with steam accounts, and spied their thousands of hours on team fortress (just an example). I used to chuckle at how there were so many more games out there.. then elite happened.. now im embarassing.
I think elite is strange, there's one safe zone (likely because frontier dont touch it) which is the truck simulator + pottering around the sandbox play style. This core is immutable and works. The problems start as soon as you engage their marketing, because every single time it creates expectations in all aspects far different to reality and disappoints directly from doing this. I can only imagine its because their marketing thinks mainstream action oriented steamers are the people who play for thousands of hours, or at least they refuse to stop trying for that demographic. Only frontier know if their current approach is better or worse for them, but from a personal perspective.. truck sim in space works. Hype and following along with frontiers social experiments leaves you winded every time. If only frontier actually followed through with their marketing we could just shut up and move on. Just doing a quick account myself for every feature ive been around for... yep thats really how its been.
I havent played more than 10 minutes since the last patch disaster, but i think that the idea of earning arx during play would be a disincentive for me too.Just that really. For some reason I just have hardly run the game at all since these Arx things appeared. I don't really know why but I suspect it might be a reaction to the game sort of putting a value on what you have been doing. I am not interested in earning Arx (I can buy some if I want anything) so am not looking at maximising the awarding of them. However in over four-and-a-half years I have never gone more than a few days without playing and yet in the last two weeks I have hardly run the game at all.
Anyway, this isn't a complaint or a rant or a whine - just interested to know if anyone else has experienced this.
If you have a basic grasp of mathematics and a calculator then it would be impossible to conceal the cost of a purchase from you. So are you just being dramatic, or do you not have a basic grasp of mathematics and/or a calculator?I havent played more than 10 minutes since the last patch disaster, but i think that the idea of earning arx during play would be a disincentive for me too.
I dont like being put in the position of tacitly endorsing a micro transaction scheme designed to conceal the cost of purchases from buyers, dont want to be complicit in such a thing, even passively.
I do. Many dont or wont be bothered to make the calculation, especially with the in game arx rewards muddying the water.If you have a basic grasp of mathematics and a calculator then it would be impossible to conceal the cost of a purchase from you. So are you just being dramatic, or do you not have a basic grasp of mathematics and/or a calculator?
Well, you know the old saying about the fool and his money. Fools have been getting ripped off since the dawn of mankind, and that will never change.I do. Many dont or wont be bothered to make the calculation, especially with the in game arx rewards muddying the water.
If you have a basic grasp of mathematics and a calculator
Well, you know the old saying about the fool and his money. Fools have been getting ripped off since the dawn of mankind, and that will never change.
I'm not too bad @ maths. Next time you want to make a purchase send me a message and I'll try to convert it into real money for you. If I can't work it out then it definitely should be banned!I hate maths and do have a calculator and arx is bloody annoying. Every single time i've thought about making a purchase the calculator has to be used its just stupid.
Who cares about fools you need external tools to use the store now.
I always thought a deal where both parties walked away equally unhappy was a fair deal!The ideal sales transaction is one where both parties are happy with the deal. What you may not be happy to pay, someone else might. And vice versa of course.
Seriously tho, if you really want to negotiate the best deals, read Never Split The Difference by Chris Voss. It's entertaining enough to be easy to read, but it's also a real eye-opener regarding getting the best deal for youself while keeping the other party happy.The ideal sales transaction is one where both parties are happy with the deal. What you may not be happy to pay, someone else might. And vice versa of course.
I'm not too bad @ maths. Next time you want to make a purchase send me a message and I'll try to convert it into real money for you. If I can't work it out then it definitely should be banned!
Exactly. If I stopped playing I'd be gone from here and be over on the forum of whatever game I'd switched to, getting noob advice.Being a serial forum moaner is just so sad and negative imo. Coming onto the forum and moaning about a game the serial forum moaner doesn't even play anymore is strange and obsessive behaviour imo. Pointing out how weird and sad that behaviour is, that's just an observation.
Exactly. I would be too busy enjoying the new game: trying to understand the game mechanics, and loving every moment of it! THAT would be normal behaviour imo, but then again I have never been much of a whinger - it's such a waste of time and energy!Exactly. If I stopped playing I'd be gone from here and be over on the forum of whatever game I'd switched to, getting noob advice.
I'm actually a healthcare professional. Not that it really matters, all businesses are the same: you have to make more money than you spend so that you end up with a tidy profit. And for that reason I get rid of whiney customers as quick as I can, they are bad for staff morale, they don't spend enough, and they take up too much time, so they eat into your profits. Best to concentrate on loyal customers: they spend much more, they're great for staff morale and pretty much all the time I spend with them is on the services we provide, which we get paid very well for.