Let's explore what you just said:
An unengineered T-9 would be fine in solo but burgermeat if interdicted in open by a player.
You can earn more PowerPlay merits in high value trading if you use a bigger ship with more cargo capacity, notice how you've moved the goal posts to the player spending 120 million on a T9 in game because you know your original claim that a sidewinder is just as effective as a store bought T9 in PowerPlay is obviously false, you got caught saying something false, just own it, don't try to change what you said
Countered by the classic quote ‘post then retort with something unrelated’ ploy. I have no idea what you are imagining about those games in fact from my direct knowledge you could even be imagining the existence of most of them.
Nope, you still haven't tried to understand how powerplay works now. Hauling in powerplay is a masochistic way to make merits since 2.0.You can earn more PowerPlay merits in high value trading if you use a bigger ship with more cargo capacity, notice how you've moved the goal posts to the player spending 120 million on a T9 in game because you know your original claim that a sidewinder is just as effective as a store bought T9 in PowerPlay is obviously false, you got caught saying something false, just own it, don't try to change what you said
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Nope, you can make lots of merits doing high value trades in PowerPlay, and a lot of money too, these are just facts and it's disingenuous for you to claim otherwise, if you want to meta game and min max everything to the 'highest return per hour' then that's on you but don't impose it on everyone else, normal players don't play like that, sorry.
Sorry you've completely lost me, is it possible you could reply to my concern which is 'pay to win is getting worse in elite dangerous and I'm concerned about it' I'd be interested to hear your opinion on that and discuss, thanks
It's whatever goals you set for yourself, become rich? Become a pirate? Colonise a star system? Get top rank in PowerPlay? Spread your power to a desired system? and so on and so on there are hundreds of wins in Elite if you have goals, I'm surprised you've played the game so far without having goals, do you just stay parked in the station? Honest question how do you play without goals?
What @Dillon Fallon was hinting at is that trading / hauling merits was the one and only META in PP1. In PP2 you can loads of merits (and actually have fun too) without ever setting foot in a large trading vessel. I am not exactly a power power player (get it?), but I'm doing okay. And I earned almost all of my current... I don't know, 600k or so merits? in a Mandalay, usually gaining several ranks in each power play session. Power play has branched out vastly from sitting at a station waiting for the board refresh and then hauling it to another station.
To spell it out: You cannot "win" the game. Winning implies a) an end goal, which Elite doesn't have, and b) a comparison to achieving something other CMDRs can't, which is rarely, if ever, the case. The only place you could talk about "winning" is direct PvP, and good luck doing that in an ARX jumpstart ship.
We have very different ideas of what a high merit activity is then.
Well nearly.
Yes, see below.
You are concerned about people being able to buy ships which you feel will give them an advantage over other players who do not do this.
The danger of setting big or definite goals is what to do after achieving them.
This is a forum for discussing the game, this thread in particular is about my concern that pay to win is going to increase and could spoil the game, your response to that is now 'what I want to say about your concern will get me banned', don't you think it would be better to tell me why you think my concerns are unfounded and participate in the discussion, I'm enjoying hearing other points of view and I've learnt a lot in this thread so far.
I think that's a great goal, I totally hear the people who say in this thread 'look I know some elements of the game could be pay to win if you compare yourself to others, but I don't so it isn't pay to win to me' I think that's a very commendable and adult way to be, unfortunately I've got a competitive streak so it doesn't work for me
No I don’t.
So in conclusion if two players both have 20 hours in game, both have a Eagle and 2 mil in the bank, and both sign up to PowerPlay, which player will rank up faster, the one who pays for a T9 in the store or the one who gets T6?
Nope, because the T-6 player will go mining.
