Some people just want to see the Galaxy burn, starting with new Players who may not have much in the way of Combat skills. I cannot see the point, myself, as if new Players get driven out of the Game it could well reduce sales to the point where FDev no longer support it.
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Powderpanic
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I club seals because they produce a very fine and valuable pelt.
Inb4 the s... nevermind, the sealclubbing association already weighed in on this thread. Enjoy all the responses about how they add "content" to the game, and how big and important they are.
[SIZE=-8]Even though statistics show they are only a fraction of the playerbase, and just make as much noise as possible.[/SIZE]
And before anyone starts to sprout things about how it was about his combat rank or whatever:
I had two friends whom I got into this game. One of their first experiences was that a human commander with a fully engineered ship interdicted them and killed them without as much as a word. One of them had no cargo and was in a sidey, the other was already in a hauler and had a small amount of cargo, but both had no or a very low combat rank.
So cut the excuses. You do it because right now there's no consequence. That's the only reason.
Oh and bonus points: Neither of the two played the game for more than a few days after this happened. They felt like there was no way to compete. Yes there's solo, but getting ganked for no reason and with no communication within the first few jumps is a heartbreaking experience. The gankers killed any and all legitimate piracy anyway. Anyone who wants to get into this game, and there aren't many these days, I encourage to go solo right off the bat.
[SIZE=-8]Even though statistics show they are only a fraction of the playerbase, and just make as much noise as possible.[/SIZE]
And before anyone starts to sprout things about how it was about his combat rank or whatever:
I had two friends whom I got into this game. One of their first experiences was that a human commander with a fully engineered ship interdicted them and killed them without as much as a word. One of them had no cargo and was in a sidey, the other was already in a hauler and had a small amount of cargo, but both had no or a very low combat rank.
So cut the excuses. You do it because right now there's no consequence. That's the only reason.
Oh and bonus points: Neither of the two played the game for more than a few days after this happened. They felt like there was no way to compete. Yes there's solo, but getting ganked for no reason and with no communication within the first few jumps is a heartbreaking experience. The gankers killed any and all legitimate piracy anyway. Anyone who wants to get into this game, and there aren't many these days, I encourage to go solo right off the bat.
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I would say that it is because some people are bullies, and need to attack those who are weaker than themselves. Some bullies do it because they are 'big and strong', while some 'game bullies' do it because, in the Real World, they are being bullied, and they feel the need to pass on the feelings of how it is to be bullied.
Powderpanic
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I club seals because every Predator needs some sort of cattle to hunt down and dominate.
Between writing awarding screen plays and working on cures for aggressive diseases, I like to role-play a psycho. A psycho who derives a perverse joy from inflicting pain and suffering on others. This particular psycho has an armed spaceship and thanks to his universes gods, has been given a consequence free way of escaping every situation.
"The holy wake of Antioch", which on the count of 3 ( not 4 ) will propel me into a safe space.
Oh the joy Mr Stabby feels ( that is his RP name btw ) as he sees another players hard earned time explode into a rebuy of gratification, is almost lurid!
Between writing awarding screen plays and working on cures for aggressive diseases, I like to role-play a psycho. A psycho who derives a perverse joy from inflicting pain and suffering on others. This particular psycho has an armed spaceship and thanks to his universes gods, has been given a consequence free way of escaping every situation.
"The holy wake of Antioch", which on the count of 3 ( not 4 ) will propel me into a safe space.
Oh the joy Mr Stabby feels ( that is his RP name btw ) as he sees another players hard earned time explode into a rebuy of gratification, is almost lurid!
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Which is fine. I don't say this shouldn't be possible. It needs proper consequences though. And it would be cool too: Imagine tales of a dangerous psychopath roaming space, hunted by the authorities... he has to live the life of an outcast, unable to dock anywhere but the most remote and lawless of places, seeing him in civilized space should be a rare thing and something that comes at a great risk to him.
Right now it's more like "Yeah you got killed by a kid with too much time. No the police ain't do a thing, he'll clear his bounty easily because he has friends and billions in cash."
Sheesh!
Just as well you've got those first 2 redeeming features, or people might start to worry.
This is exactly the problem I have with suggestions about why I should accept PvP. If I have a bounty on me or I have valuable cargo, there are good in-game reasons for another player to attack me. In the absence of those reasons, the motivation seems to be that player's need to stomp on something. That's not gameplay, it's a RL issue.
To those who say "It's only a game" my reply is "No, in that kind of situation someone elsewhere in the world is trying to reach into my lounge and disrupt my leisure activity because they can and it gives them pleasure to do so". "PvP" isn't really a good description of that behaviour: there's nothing "player" about it.
Such people have no place in my game. I now play mostly in Mobius. When in Open, I'll block anyone who attacks without some in-game reason. And in the absence of any comms it's me who decides what their reason is.
That is why my ships are all armed to the teeth with the best gear...I have had many encounters with griefers. (of whom none have succeeded) and know to counter them. a lot of them enjoy killing vessels they know can't fight back. all small ships and trade ships are hazardous to fly in. Vultures with APA Target lock breakers are a real fad at present. nearly lost my trade cutter to one in Founders world. lucky for 6A prismatic 
Powderpanic
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Proper consequences aren't coming. Just bigger fines that aren't going to make a dent in murder hobo'ing.
Karma is going to be even better, as all the Emergent Content Delivery Specialists try to hit MAX Karma rank!
Time to Git Gud and accept that is the only option to deal with those "kids". Not dying in ED is already comically easy!
Or you could give up and accept defeat by just changing to a private group, solo or spamming the block button.
The day people take responsibility for their safety in space and stop hoping daddy FDEV will protect them, will be a great day for ED!
I'm a little confused by the message here.... you are saying that anyone who doesn't want to 'engage' with you should just go and play in private groups/solo, whilst in other threads That90'sKid is doing his utmost to get people OUT of private groups and into open.
I do wish you lot would get on one line because its difficult to believe any of you with such contradictory messages being sprayed across the forums.
I do wish you lot would get on one line because its difficult to believe any of you with such contradictory messages being sprayed across the forums.
Yep there's a certain amount of inconsistency going on.
I got forum challenged by a pro PVP open only advocate who sent me a friend request so he could try to blow me up, which I accepted. While he's been in my friends list I've never seen him log into the game in any mode other than solo, whereas I always play in open (except on bad internet days). Yet I'm the one who gets told I'm ruining open, a care bear and that I'm hiding from risk.
It's all a bit fishy.
Wizzin The Wazza
Getting bigger PVP kill count.
Not really matters for me ship size or its owners skill or rank, what I do care is getting them blow up. Whatever is harmless sidey or Elite big 3 who know how to pvp, it will be interdicted and engaged, if they got into my area of operation. In 99.7% of cases, I win since my ships are bulid for 1v1, especially cutter made to kill other big3. At time only thing that could beat it in 1v1, was heat when it was still broken.
Places like Maia wich is anarchy is personal favorite farm place of cmdrs, because lawless and remoteness. Used to camp in Eravate, but I left that place years ago so zarek could start shine instead.
Though killing more skilled cmdrs is more fun than killing noobs, but they die not so often as they know what they doing so they chose when to die. When they lose they wake out in time, and afta fight like that, I consider that as win. Yet sometimes even them makes mistakes, they try run when its too late, so they get killed.
Still, most cmdrs I met are simply noobs who aint gud enough yet, to know basics of evade, so they need get blown up, until they learn that, lol.
Yes im one of those who uses fully maxed out cutter, but there is reason for it. Too many big ships flying around so using ships like courier is out of option, as anything bigger will just Lwake from it laughing and saying something like: "haha, nice try litte one" etc..
Besides killing any big 3 pvp bulid in my courier takes danm too long. And its really annoying when I engage elite pvp vette for 25 min to get its shields down, buring few reloads just to have it wake out when it happens or worse, CL when they are about to die.
That was enough "justifications" for you OP?
Not really matters for me ship size or its owners skill or rank, what I do care is getting them blow up. Whatever is harmless sidey or Elite big 3 who know how to pvp, it will be interdicted and engaged, if they got into my area of operation. In 99.7% of cases, I win since my ships are bulid for 1v1, especially cutter made to kill other big3. At time only thing that could beat it in 1v1, was heat when it was still broken.
Places like Maia wich is anarchy is personal favorite farm place of cmdrs, because lawless and remoteness. Used to camp in Eravate, but I left that place years ago so zarek could start shine instead.
Though killing more skilled cmdrs is more fun than killing noobs, but they die not so often as they know what they doing so they chose when to die. When they lose they wake out in time, and afta fight like that, I consider that as win. Yet sometimes even them makes mistakes, they try run when its too late, so they get killed.
Still, most cmdrs I met are simply noobs who aint gud enough yet, to know basics of evade, so they need get blown up, until they learn that, lol.
Yes im one of those who uses fully maxed out cutter, but there is reason for it. Too many big ships flying around so using ships like courier is out of option, as anything bigger will just Lwake from it laughing and saying something like: "haha, nice try litte one" etc..
Besides killing any big 3 pvp bulid in my courier takes danm too long. And its really annoying when I engage elite pvp vette for 25 min to get its shields down, buring few reloads just to have it wake out when it happens or worse, CL when they are about to die.
That was enough "justifications" for you OP?
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I get the impression we're comparing apples and oranges here.
The sort of person who isn't willing to open fire on a half-decent ship, despite flying in a top-tier ship themselves, but then starts blasting at ships they assume they can swat like flies probably isn't going to be the sort of person who's considered a grand-master of PvP..... are they?
When I see good PvP, which involves skill, tactics and situational awareness, I can appreciate it but seal-clubbing isn't that.
It's kind of like some bloke hanging around in a bar and telling people he's won 200 arm-wrestling contests when it turns out what he does is hang around outside the local school and insists on arm-wrestling all the under-12s.
Powderpanic
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Your definition of PVP does not concern Mr Stabby!
ED doesnt lead you by the hand, there is no princess to save and you will never rule the galaxy.
You need to git-gud at setting your own objectives, organise something and stop moaning.
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