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Alien

Alien
Kallipar said:
Don't forget lep and beta get a discount on rebuys....
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That's a double edged sword.
On one hand, yes I get a discount on rebuy.

On the other hand, it's so small I may as well not have it. It makes no difference whatever.
Except for one thing, I can't give you any accurate info on how much anything in the game costs to buy.
For example, you ask me how much is an Imperial Clipper, and I could say it's Cr 19,000,000 but then you go and it's Cr 21,000,000. Now, you don't trust anything I say because I already gave you wrong information.

Honestly, I'd rather not have a discount at all, especially as credits now are so easy to get, the tiny discount means nothing.
 

Kallipar

Kallipar
Alien said:
That's a double edged sword.
On one hand, yes I get a discount on rebuy.

On the other hand, it's so small I may as well not have it. It makes no difference whatever.
Except for one thing, I can't give you any accurate info on how much anything in the game costs to buy.
For example, you ask me how much is an Imperial Clipper, and I could say it's Cr 19,000,000 but then you go and it's Cr 21,000,000. Now, you don't trust anything I say because I already gave you wrong information.

Honestly, I'd rather not have a discount at all, especially as credits now are so easy to get, the tiny discount means nothing.
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Yes it is small, however it wasn't always small vs earnings. It is however significant over the 10 years since it started for me. Also other unseen benefits were the free cobra 3 and free Eagle. Some deleted those, however I didn't, they do give financial advantages, in terms of total cost/ rebuy/ transfer.


Let's not forget the only discount ever for carrier purchase, not a LEP item, but taking advantage of such discounts does give an edge in running costs and I like that 👌.

The free imp courier (from the Christmas CG a few years ago) for example has a zero value, so I only pay for the modules on rebuy/transfer.
Yes you can earn billions now, and the cost of a pilot is stupid in comparison 🙄 but I like it that I can minimise costs if I wish...
 

GJ51

GJ51
The more you play, the cheaper it gets

I've probably spent about $300 at FD

$300/10,000hrs. = $.03/hr

Hardware spent on system to play ED

38" Alienware monitor
Slaw Device BF-109 rudder pedals
Monstertech deskmounts for Warthogs
3090 GPU
Cubesim monitors

The software was the cheapest part of the whole endeavor...

No contest

The cost of my electricity is probably more than the cost of the software
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
I got better value than many out of my LEP and consider myself breaking even ... however the "everyone got their monies worth" is some proper man maths imo. if we want to discuss the value of the LEP then it isn't really accurate to use value of the base game that everyone gets , even those who paid £20 at launch.
the question as to the value of the LEP is what it has offered over and above the base game, horizons and Oddy. I would say being generous that is about £90 worth.

so those who got the KSer LEP are not doing so bad imo. the post launch LEPers however not so much again just imo
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Cosmo said:
$200 for all that + 10 years of free updates, improvements and reworks of game mechanics is a lot of value for money. I think ED development will continue for another decade with big DLC and maybe expansions (Earth-like worlds, ship interiors, base building) which LEP holders should receive for free.

That's a good deal imo.
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People who didn't buy the LEP also got the free updates. And there is a lot to critique about the quality and quantity of those updates vs what we might have hoped for. I'm looking at it through the lens of what i paid for (all paid expansions for free) vs what I got.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
ubermick said:
There's two ways of looking at it there, mate.

Same boat. In terms of actual money for what they eventually charged for things, then yeah you're right - think if you just bought the games as they came (even at full release) be about half what the alpha LEP cost.

The other way of looking at it, is that I'm about 3,200 hours in, and I paid $150 for the Premium Beta kickstarter. That works out to the equivalent of 4c per hour. Decent PC game is $50 ($70 for the AAA these days, I can't in good conscience call Elite AAA). According to my Steam library, the longest I've played a game on there is 36 hours, Horizon Zero Dawn. So about $1.40 an hour? So in that regard I think I've got value for money? (And a gloriously shiny Cobra MkIV with a salty paint job.)

THAT SAID.

Do agree wouldn't have hurt FDev's bottom line by giving the LEP owners early access. And not saying that just because I have an LEP, even if I didn't I'd lobby for it. Without Kickstarters and LEP investors, the game wouldn't have happened. There's not that many of us left regularly active in the game, so even if half of us would have bought the arx, they'd have only lost out on a couple of hundred quid.

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Hey, i've got nothing against the fun i've had for the hours played. I could have had the same fun and the same hours by paid less by not buying the LEP though.
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Agony_Aunt said:
I'm looking at it through the lens of what i paid for (all paid expansions for free) vs what I got.
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So, are you saying you didn't get the paid expansions for free? (as that is what you paid for)
I doubt there will ever be another paid expansion to ED, seeing as how well EDO has been received, but, one can never say never, can they?
 

Kallipar

Kallipar
Rat Catcher said:
It is the risk you assume, I suppose, you may get 'value' for your money, equally may not.
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Without LEP there would not have been a game. The value in this game for which I paid a set amount is that I have had 10 years playing a game I love. Other games I have go 10's of hours, ED has given me thousands.
 
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