There is always a risk with pre-ordering and its things like this that turn people away from pre-ordering again in the future.
LIFETIME Expansion pass, and Python Mk2
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There is always a risk with pre-ordering and its things like this that turn people away from pre-ordering again in the future.
This is debatable. FD stumped up most of the money for the game. IIRC it was something like 6.5 million from FD and 1.5 from backers. As I understand it was as much to gauge how much interest there was in a new Elite as to funding for it. Kind of a "put your money where your mouth is".
I didn't buy a lifetime skin pass. I bought a lifetime expansion pass.
Would you think it reasonable if you bought a lifetime supply of petrol and were instead given paint jobs for your car?
It's not what money was given for.
Meanwhile, rebranding early access to a new ship as something other than expansion content is, to be blunt, a dog move.
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Yes, there is.
I pre-ordered CP2077 when it was being marketed as a RPG...
The demand was there, that is what they found. A kickstarter was very unusual at that time, so it was a punt for sure, however if it had been Hollywood they wouldn't have taken that chance
Can you imagine only spending 9 - 10M on a current title thats going to last 10+ years?![[VR] Mad Mike](https://forums-cdn.zaonce.net/data/avatars/m/27/27910.jpg?1553527108){kind=avatar}
for the record i am not bothered about betas, i rarely play them, I initially did actual bug testing on builds before i realised that the truth was, we were not beta testing, it was just a money spinner.......... i am genuinely not bitter about that.
however ................... just to split hairs.... if the LEP was meant to come with all pre release content and beta testing then by that yardstick, then the python mk2, the lakon type 8 and all other ships sold pre release should have been included with the LEP (just imo of course).
mind you FD also said that arx would only be used for cosmetic sales and everything else would be paid for via gameplay online..... so to be honest i am struggling to see how zero credit rebuy ships with engineering done on them, sellable via arx fits into that promise from FD regardless of the LEP.
bottom line it does not matter whether we like it or not, FD will do what ever they want. (which isnt to say we cant chat about it on forums or social media............ just that i would not expect it to change the direction FD choose to take)
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I read the first three pages and this one….skipped the rest…..as a LEP holder, I may not be £s in but am grateful that the stand out game I played in the 80s is still going strong. Don’t think the python mk2 early access is a problem, not sure I like pre engineered ships, not bothered about betas either, but at least I know where that snowman came from now. Just enjoying the game, even though I occasionally go six months without playing and forget some of the many basics…..
keep the game alive….and be grateful that it is.
keep the game alive….and be grateful that it is.
I understand the sentiment but a little bit of goodwill from FD could go a long way.
Of course, goodwill doesn't pay the bills.
maybe, maybe not.
IF FD announced next week that they are starting work on Elite D2, there would undoubtedly be special edition pre-order versions..... I suspect they would not go the way of the LEP again but i would expect there to be premium versions which cost more.
i can categorically state now that, if it had cockpit VR, whilst i would be buying an elite D 2 i would not be buying any premium versions.... I just dont feel that FD offer enough value in their "premium" versions (which for Elite D includes the LEP) Being pessimistic, assuming no more premium expansions coming to Elite, throwing in the early access new ships would have been a decent piece of value to the LEP and therefore given more faith in future special editions of any new game.
(though if they did a £20 early bird copy of the game i would get that!)
Personally now, i am done preordering games to support the developers (of any game not just Elite).... the only preorders i will do now will be if they are significantly cheaper than the game will be at launch.
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Only at above a certain level - I was skint at the time and could only throw a token £20 at it. I got the premium beta LEP when it became available prior launch
I always saw it as a FPS tabletop conversion. Amazing game!
What people don't get is Raxxla is inside the 'game' disc of that box. Put on the T-shirt, put on the pin badge, look deep into the mirrored surface and after saying Raxxla three times its location appears on the supplied starmap poster.
But on a less / more serious note, this is like asking Tesco to honour clubcard points from ten years ago against the beans of today. They'll do their best to honour it but at some point things will change- its like me arguing over how I never got the black paints for new ships outside the KS.
Ah, so that’s why no one has found it yet - the T-shirt got “upgraded” to a polo shirt and thus the incantation was rendered ineffective.
As for the ClubCard points - isn’t the new-ship paid early access a bit like Tesco saying “you used to get points for this six pack of delicious own-brand beans because ten years ago you paid for a lifetime supply of own-brand beans in a six pack but now we’re selling them individually so now they’re a different product completely and you’re not getting points for them anymore. Or the beans. Would you like to donate 21p to charity?”
i must admit i do like my boxed version with all the stuff in - that said the disk copy of the game is a bit of a joke, it just has a few megabytes installer for the game on it
sure now it would be way out of date anyway but it was hardly the bandwidth saving install on a disk that many expected even at launch (i dont mind........ but it makes it totally pointless)do you launch the game through steam or direct through frontier?Evening All,
LEP holder here too. Just trying to figure out how to get Odyssey and space legs working. Been away for a while
if you log into your frontier account online (which i cant do as i cant remember my password right now to check) you should have a bunch of keys on your account one of which should be for Ody.
Aint got LEP myself, but got that mercenary edition shortly before launch at 2014. I do recall options in store for LEP and such, back then, but it smelled fishy so went with cheapest option... and hunch was right in end.. as it turned to be lie (kind of) in end... ever since ARX based early-access for new ships have been added.
They been sayin for LEP option at store:
For a limited time only, players will be able to purchase a Lifetime Expansion Pass granting access to all current and future Seasons of Elite: Dangerous. The Lifetime Expansion Pass also includes access to all Elite: Dangerous Beta builds to gain an early glimpse at upcoming game content before release plus exclusive content.
10 years later or not, lifetime means lifetime... Its shame that since 3 month "exclusive" access to new ships are technically "consider" same as cosmetics as hid behind ARX, but these are new content, no matter how sneaky Fdevs trying to squish extra bit of $ atm, LEP owners should have these included to that since its exacly what it was promised.
Cant say I am suprised, as many promises from begining never came true or some of these that Fdevs managed to deliver, a lot of these and thier quality leaved lot to be desired.
Of course, I always had been bit sceptic so always been carefull and if until confirmed what I am buyin, then didnt. Yet brought horizons at relase and well as oddy, and numerous paintjobs, and even ARX few times all over these years, so I consider that more than enough as for financial support from myself for Frontier. I got few thousands hours done and I dont not feel that I wasted any money on this game, since this game its probly one where I have spend most time of all games I played so far.
But cant help but to feel sorry for LEP owners that they been "scammed" like that from something they should get it, even if its just early access to new ships for 3 months.
They been sayin for LEP option at store:
For a limited time only, players will be able to purchase a Lifetime Expansion Pass granting access to all current and future Seasons of Elite: Dangerous. The Lifetime Expansion Pass also includes access to all Elite: Dangerous Beta builds to gain an early glimpse at upcoming game content before release plus exclusive content.
10 years later or not, lifetime means lifetime... Its shame that since 3 month "exclusive" access to new ships are technically "consider" same as cosmetics as hid behind ARX, but these are new content, no matter how sneaky Fdevs trying to squish extra bit of $ atm, LEP owners should have these included to that since its exacly what it was promised.
Cant say I am suprised, as many promises from begining never came true or some of these that Fdevs managed to deliver, a lot of these and thier quality leaved lot to be desired.
Of course, I always had been bit sceptic so always been carefull and if until confirmed what I am buyin, then didnt. Yet brought horizons at relase and well as oddy, and numerous paintjobs, and even ARX few times all over these years, so I consider that more than enough as for financial support from myself for Frontier. I got few thousands hours done and I dont not feel that I wasted any money on this game, since this game its probly one where I have spend most time of all games I played so far.
But cant help but to feel sorry for LEP owners that they been "scammed" like that from something they should get it, even if its just early access to new ships for 3 months.
The Cobra Mk IV counts as exclusive content, yes, but the Cobra Mk IV is not part of the LEP.
Cobra Mk IV
The Cobra Mk IV is Faulcon deLacy's development of the famous Cobra MkIII. It's a heavier and bulkier ship than the MkIII, but packs an extra punch and its better weaponry placement makes it a more effective combat vessel. It's tougher, to improve survivability, and allows better upgrading, but...
elite-dangerous.fandom.com
"The Cobra Mk IV is exclusively for players who upgraded to Elite Dangerous: Horizons during its first year."