Hardware & Technical Logitech Extreme 3D Pro? - NOT FORCE 3D PRO

<chuckles> I don't think I've ever used yaw - but I'll try it tonight.

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I fear my 3D Pro may be on its way out - the actual stick part is becoming loose.
 
Horizons 2.0.03 released, here's my selectable bindings file for Horizons (Elite: Dangerous 2.0.03 & onwards) ³ :
https://app.box.com/s/sbgugo8073zaxe7uwy83vq5n8nsc88gq
File goes to:
<Your E: D Install Dir>\EDLaunch\Products\elite-dangerous-64\ControlSchemes ¹

ALERT !
This particular file if for Finnish keyboard layout.
You may need to edit (or delete) line 3 of the file to make it work.
Do not use Windows Notepad, it may render the file inoperable - working editors are for example Windows Wordpad, or the excellent Notepad++.
To find correct language code for you:
- start the game
- go to options/controls
- hit APPLY
- open Custom.binds (found in
C:\Users\<yourusername>\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Bindings
AppData is a hidden folder)
- if line 3 is <KeyboardLayout>xy-XY</KeyboardLayout> (xy-XY is your language code), just change the "fi-FI" part in LogitechExtreme3Dpro2003.binds to that
- if there is no line <KeyboardLayout>xy-XY</KeyboardLayout>, delete it from LogitechExtreme3Dpro2003.binds


Might as well explain some additional stuff, like k/b & mouse controls I included:
Forward thrust = A
Backward thrust = Z
Open/close Galaxy Map = M
Open/close System Map = K
Rotate Galaxy Map = left mouse button & mouse movement
Zoom Galaxy Map = mouse wheel
Toggle Rotational Correction = C
Toggle Lights = L
Toggle Orbital Lines in SuperCruise = O
Engage/Disengage SuperCruise = J ²
Engage/Abort Hyperspace = H ²
Look around = right mouse button & mouse movement
Navigation/Contacts Panel = 1
Comms Panel = 2
Systems Panel = 3
Radar / SRV Deployment Panel = 4
Reset Focus (return to 'normal view') = Left Shift
Back in panels & menus = Q
Back to Galaxy map from the System View = Q
Next Tab in Panels = E
Previous Tab in Panels = W
Quick Comms = Spacebar
Deploy/Stow Weapons = Enter
Next Firegroup = .
Previous Firegroup = ,
Toggle Silent Running = Del
Deploy Heatsink = V
Increase Scanner Range = PageUp
Decrease Scanner Range = PageDown
Power Distribution = Arrow keys (SYS = left, ENG = up, WEP = right, balanced = down)
Eject all cargo = Backspace
Target 1st wingman = 7
Target 2nd wingman = 8
Target 3rd wingman = 9
Select wingman's target = 0
Wingman Nav-lock = -
Select next Nav Target on Route = +
Toggle 'Classified' Camera = Tab
Added "U" and "I" as additional (digital) Yaw controls, since my stick's twist axis started acting up.

And Joystick functions:
Pitch/Roll/Yaw = Y/X/Z -axes, Z-axis = stick twist (for Yaw)
Throttle = Throttle (forward only)
Toggle Reverse Throttle = Button 9
Primary Fire / Deploy Hardponts = Trigger (Button 1)
Secondary Fire = Thumb Trigger (Button 2)
Select Target / Select Menu Item = Button 3 (bottom left button around hat switch)
Cycle Previous Subsystem = Button 5 (top left button around hat switch)
Cycle Next Target = Button 6 (top right button around hat switch)
Boost = Button 4 (bottom right button around hat switch)
Lateral/Vertical Thrusters / Move Cursor in Menus = Hat Switch
Toggle Flight Assist = Button 11
Toggle Landing Gear = Button 12
Toggle cargo Scoop = Button 10
Fire Chaff = Button 7
Use Shield Cell = Button 8

SRV Controls:
I assigned SRV controls to mimick ship flight controls.
So:
- throttle lever should accelerate/decelerate, button 9 toggles reverse
- stick (roll) left/right to steer left/right (pitch & roll just as ship, when SRV airborne)
- Button 4 toggles Turret Mode
- Turret right/left = mouse right/left
- Turret up/down = mouse up/down
- Fire weapons = Trigger (Button 1) or Mouse button 1
- Datalink Scanner = Thumb Trigger (Button 2)
- lights = L
- cargo scoop = Button 10 on stick
- hand brake = Button 12 on stick

² because it was so in Elite and is so in Oolite
³ if you were playing any previous Release version, the game most probably updates your Custom.binds so that this file is not needed. (Better to check your bindings in Options/Controls to be sure.)


I'm using this. I didn't have to change anything in my settings/file - it showed up as Logitech 3D Extreme Pro in the game options after I imported this file into the correct folder. Only problem is, probably because I'm totally new to the game - how do I go forward? Like fly around? I feel like I just float there.
 
Only problem is, probably because I'm totally new to the game - how do I go forward? Like fly around? I feel like I just float there.
Push the throttle lever forward.

Have you done any of the tutorials? They help you get grasp of the basics.
 
The reference sheet generator now supports the Extreme 3D Pro, so you can obtain a reference sheet for your own configuration. Link for the tool is in my signature.
 
Question :

I recently reinstalled the game after several months of not playing.

I have done so via Steam.

I have taken the file and placed it into the appropriate steam files according to what I have read here, and in the place that also makes since logically.

When I log into the game, I only see 4 profiles possibly. No other options than the generic ones, such as keyboard/mouse or general joystic and blank, or something of that nature.

Yet, the control scheme folder is full of potential options to choose from.

Any ideas as to why all the options are missing?

In the mean time, I am going to see if I can find the downloader from Frontier and install the game through them instead of steam. Or I hope I can.

More often than not, some games never seem to run correctly from Steam.

Thor
 
OK, I've not been playing this in a while and I've recently re-downloaded this setup, None of it appears to be implementing though, having to completely customize all aspects, am i installing it wrong? I cant find where to drop it in my EDLaunch folder (as the pathway doesnt exists past hosting all the launch stuff) and I've pasted it in my appdata, still nothing?

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OK, I've not been playing this in a while and I've recently re-downloaded this setup, None of it appears to be implementing though, having to completely customize all aspects, am i installing it wrong? I cant find where to drop it in my EDLaunch folder (as the pathway doesnt exists past hosting all the launch stuff) and I've pasted it in my appdata, still nothing?
 
Hello Zieman, I just got my new E3D Pro joystick yesterday, I am having trouble to assign / apply controls as I haven't used any joystick so far, is there any chance to prepare a tutorial video for beginners :) I was searching whole forums and you were the only one providing all details at once. Thanks very much
 
Here are my bindings (ref sheet and download): https://www.mcdee.net/elite/binds/gkmnym
I use most of the base buttons as modifiers to let me control more functions without taking my hands off the stick.

For exploration I switch to this variation: https://www.mcdee.net/elite/binds/jdooey
Here reverse thrust and toggle FA are hold rather than toggle, because accidentally leaving them on during planetary flight can be disastrous, and heat sinks are
Ctrl-Shift-V rather than just V because they can't be synthesised and I got tired of using them by accident.
 
I got mine during Premium Beta, before the official release. I thought it was great, apart from a slight yaw to the left which I couldn't get rid of, so I adjusted the deadzone.
Last year, I went on holiday for a couple of weeks. Next time I booted my PC and started the game, the yaw had increased significantly, and was pitching down as well. I increased the deadzones a bit, and since then, I've been yanking it (sometimes quite forcibly) right & up when the drift comes back. That seemed to sort it out.
I came back from holiday this year, downloaded the 2.2 Beta, started the game, and launched.
My reaction was unprintable on these forums. My ship was twisting and turning like a bag of epileptic squid on acid and I hadn't even left the launch pad. With my Logitech gripped tightly and twisted in the most unnatural fashion, I managed to leave the station, then boosted to a safe distance before playing around with the control settings...
I finally got it to stop pitching and yawing, but increasing both deadzones to over 50% of the entire range.

Now, I can use yaw, sometimes.
Making minor adjustments to my pitch while fuel scooping is now extremely hazardous.
Landing is difficult.
I havent' really tried combat with the new deadzones yet, but I suspect I would find it frustrating.

The thing is... I have gone to Logitech's website and searched... I have googled it...
I have not been able to find a utility to calibrate the bloody thing! The standard setup software has a tab where I can see the bars stretching to the left and down, showing me that it's 'd, but there is no way to tell it "this means 0:0:0. Make it so."

Can anyone please provide a link to instructions or software that will let me calibrate the stupid thing? Or do I need to spend >£100 on a Warthog or similar?

Thanks Eversomuch
 
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