Lost everything because of a random AI Interdiction for an empty cargo hold

Hmm, i also got immediately attacked by NPC pirates when dropping out of supercruise at someones carrier.. no scan, just pewpew right of the bat, not wanted, not in a wing

That would be a mission NPC hired to stop you from completing it, not a pirate. Pirates are after your cargo and send you their demands (and give you time to comply) before shooting. There used to be an NPC type that attacked the player without motivation, but Frontier removed those. The only other instance I know of unprovoked attacks by NPCs is the ambush scenario USS masquerading as degraded emission USS.
 
That would be a mission NPC hired to stop you from completing it, not a pirate. Pirates are after your cargo and send you their demands (and give you time to comply) before shooting. There used to be an NPC type that attacked the player without motivation, but Frontier removed those. The only other instance I know of unprovoked attacks by NPCs is the ambush scenario USS masquerading as degraded emission USS.

Yeah I didn't accept any kind of mission in 4 days tho. Been exploring & did some material grinding.
Maybe someone else near the carrier had a mission active tho? who knows, I'm not complaining - but I was surprised tbh.
 
LOL - you guys are great.

Don't know what's worse, losing a T9 or being chastised 4 pages on this board for flying 'without a rebuy' -

luckily nothing like OP has happened to me, but if it ever does,

the last thing I'll do is post about it here ;)
 
LOL - you guys are great.

Don't know what's worse, losing a T9 or being chastised 4 pages on this board for flying 'without a rebuy' -

luckily nothing like OP has happened to me, but if it ever does,

the last thing I'll do is post about it here ;)

Well, it was OPs choice to come into DD and complain about the unfairness of the game with a rather leaky story. Over in the Newcomer's forum, people might have been a bit more sympathetic, at least initially.
It's another symptom of the skewed progression - back in the earlier days, by the time you got a T-9, you would have lost multiple smaller ships and just knew that without the rebuy, you're gently caressed. NPCs seem to have a nose for that. On the upside, half an hour to one hour of mining, and he'll have his money back. Not even worth bothering support for that kind of small change nowadays.

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Translates as "No backup? No sympathy!"
 
Well, it was OPs choice to come into DD and complain about the unfairness of the game with a rather leaky story. Over in the Newcomer's forum, people might have been a bit more sympathetic, at least initially.

doesn't change the fact, that forums are toxic af... i think that's what the reply was about^^
 
It's another symptom of the skewed progression - back in the earlier days, by the time you got a T-9, you would have lost multiple smaller ships and just knew that without the rebuy, you're gently caressed. NPCs seem to have a nose for that. On the upside, half an hour to one hour of mining, and he'll have his money back. Not even worth bothering support for that kind of small change nowadays.

T9 isn't really an obvious choice for a beginner imho - never flew one myself.

A basic Python doesn't cost all that much more I think, and can at least defend itself or high tail out.

It will normally win the interdiction against the Conda too.
 
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doesn't change the fact, that forums are toxic af... i think that's what the reply was about^^
Having been here longer than 99.9% of people currently posting ... I think I am in a uniquely qualified position to comment on this forum and it's behaviour.

It can be toxic at times, I do admit that, but it would be unfair to to regard the behaviour as only being toxic.

The truth is closer to a community that is here because we like the game this forum is here to discuss. As such we don't tolerate people coming out of nowhere (I'll just interrupt myself here and say that people ARE welcome to come out of nowhere. We want new players and new members to the community) ... coming out of nowhere and attacking the game, the developers or the community itself.

If you want to be a positive, engaging member of the community, you won't get far making your first few posts raging about how you hate the game, hate the game mechanics or how you hate the developers. That's a fast road to being told where you can stick your opinion.

And this doesn't just apply to new people either, btw. I have ... rightly ... been put in my place a few times, and at times have had to remind others of their place too. We are ONE community, and we care for each other, and sometimes that involves being brutally honest. How you handle that, is your choice.
 
I just lost my type 9 freighter, and the 100+ million credits I poured into it, because I was helping a friend with a cargo run, and the messed up AI interdiction jumped me for my empty cargo hold as I went to go complete the contract. I wish they would update the interdictions so it doesn’t attack you when you have nothing in your cargo, and if you do get blown to bits, that it just puts you at the nearest station, not one 500 light years away from whatever station you were next to that had whatever mission reward waiting for you. Like I just lost A weeks worth of grinding out money in 10 seconds to be stranded 500 light years away from my mission reward, it’s honestly game breaking
I do agree that NPC interdictions and spawns are irrational and silly, especially the 100% pirate spawn chance, even in completely unpopulated systems.
A thing, or two rather, of note:
Hostile NPCs will ONLY interdict you if you have cargo or passengers.
Only the police bugs you when your empty.
And, you allways respawn at the last location you've docked at.
Even if its a Carrier that just made a 500ly jump. You then end up wherever its currently at.
 
The truth is closer to a community that is here because we like the game this forum is here to discuss. As such we don't tolerate people coming out of nowhere (I'll just interrupt myself here and say that people ARE welcome to come out of nowhere. We want new players and new members to the community) ... coming out of nowhere and attacking the game, the developers or the community itself.
This community is quite renown for being WAY to defensive about well deserved criticism.
One of the reasons why 6 years in there's still so many issues, is that every legit critique is being talked down and/or met with utmost toxicity.

As much as it griefs me to say, Yamiks is right in calling this place "yes Sayers", and other than the absence of the "have and have nots" garbage, the attitude closely resembles that of the much maligned SC community.
While being hippocritical enough to look down on those guys, for what they themselfes are just as guilty of.
 
No criminal record, no bounties, just got interdicted and before I could even react to the escape vector I dropped out and then immediately lost shields and got destroyed.

This sounds more like an actual player interdicted the OP.
NPC interdictions don't happen that fast.
At least I've never once had an NPC interdiction that wasn't so slow that I couldn't escape it.
Another player on the other hand, very aggressive and very quick, and impossible to escape from.... and then immediately losing shields? Definetely sounds like another player, who just wanted to be a rude ganker.
 
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In a type9 i quite regularly fail to evade interdictions.
Whenever the escape vector makes a wild swing, its game over.
This particular ship could really use a buff to its manouverability...
Its a piece of cake even in a Cutter, but in a type9 be prepared to be dragged out of warp.
 
In a type9 i quite regularly fail to evade interdictions.
Whenever the escape vector makes a wild swing, its game over.
This particular ship could really use a buff to its manouverability...
Its a piece of cake even in a Cutter, but in a type9 be prepared to be dragged out of warp.

It's a flying office block, they can hardly make that roll and turn like a dancer...
 
In a type9 i quite regularly fail to evade interdictions.
Whenever the escape vector makes a wild swing, its game over.

I used to have a T9. I got killed a couple times. Didn't complain on the forums, for me there was an easy solution. I don't have a T9 anymore.

This doesn't mean the T9 is a terrible ship. It just means I didn't have the patience or skill for it. Should the T9 get buffs so it has better survivability like an Imperial Cutter? I don't think so.
 
This community is quite renown for being WAY to defensive about well deserved criticism.
One of the reasons why 6 years in there's still so many issues, is that every legit critique is being talked down and/or met with utmost toxicity.

As much as it griefs me to say, Yamiks is right in calling this place "yes Sayers", and other than the absence of the "have and have nots" garbage, the attitude closely resembles that of the much maligned SC community.
While being hippocritical enough to look down on those guys, for what they themselfes are just as guilty of.
"This community is quite renown for being WAY to defensive about well deserved criticism."
You can apply that to every community, be it Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen, Eve Online, Godus, Epic Games Store, [insert random dating website here], Japanese Anime, (and dare I go there, black lives matter) .... if you have one side attacking another side, of course one side is going to say the other side is "toxic". History is written by the winners.

As for Yamiks, he has a style that rubs people up the wrong way, and the danger is the little mild criticism of him I have seen on here, is taken by him and escalated, which is then escalated further by this forum and it goes back and forth getting worse each time.
 
I wonder in the OP scenario, who shot first? I’ve been pulled out of space (just let it happen for a giggle) when I’ve had no bounty, no cargo and even no weapons. Experience has taught me that sometimes the NPC tells you that you weren’t worth it (yeah, I know mate) and off they go. If you were inexperienced though, you might get pulled out of space, panic and start shooting. Then the NPC will definitely come at you.

Who. Shot. First. ? ? ?
 
This community is quite renown for being WAY to defensive about well deserved criticism.
One of the reasons why 6 years in there's still so many issues, is that every legit critique is being talked down and/or met with utmost toxicity.

As much as it griefs me to say, Yamiks is right in calling this place "yes Sayers", and other than the absence of the "have and have nots" garbage, the attitude closely resembles that of the much maligned SC community.
While being hippocritical enough to look down on those guys, for what they themselfes are just as guilty of.
Gaming in general is taken MUCH to serious by some people..
Criticism delivered in angry, entitled rants is not criticism but an infantile fit.
Criticism delivered with a load of insults is not criticism, but regressive behavior.

Even if someone is passionate about something (and I know, I am about Elite) and is mad about a thing the devs put into their beloved game (yeah, me as well), that doesn't mean that it's okay to be aggressive and insulting towards anybody.

This forum is not too apologetic, but in most cases it just doesn't accept that kind of behavior I described above which automatically leads to people not being in tune with it.
This is about a toy. Devs created the toy. We play with it.

No matter how passionate I am about it, I won't ever insult a toymaker!!!
 
You can apply that to every community, be it Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen, Eve Online, Godus, Epic Games Store, [insert random dating website here], Japanese Anime, (and dare I go there, black lives matter) ....
OK, when was the last time the Elite playerbase went on a full blown torch and pitchfork riot, bombing the server so hard the game was effectively shut down, over some FDev derp?
The answer is "never". Not once.
But unsurprisingly, another thing being downtalked with (sorry) complete nonsense.
Thanks for proving my point tho...
 
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