Engineers Medium Security Settlement List and Guide for Modified Embedded Firmware

[MarvinFS]

using EDpathfinder latest, just got 20 MEF within like 2-3 hours relaxed, along with other misc data stuff. 6 installations total, 5 exploration and 1 extraction
now need to grind 50 class. data banks for Ram Tah - don't know where to get it - convoys don't have it - scanned about 20 of them - none! not even single CDB

 

[Spacecat]

Hi guys. Thank you for help and good list. But your work need a little correction.
I have problems on Kokary - 3 - Sawyer Beacon. I fink you can delete this station from list because:

1) No place for landing near station. Realy, i try to find landing spot half our and spend to many time for it.
2) Horrible landscape. Yes, its true. Just see my screen http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...777/FDCC1A08C1CBDC0E5EEE0237EB8060FD7A28543B/
3) High gravity, inpossibe jump on the wall and scan.

Dont waste your time on this god damn planet. Good luck!

Yes, I did Kokary once but never again. You CAN get on the roof of the station, but it's hard.

 

[irongut]

now need to grind 50 class. data banks for Ram Tah - don't know where to get it - convoys don't have it - scanned about 20 of them - none! not even single CDB

I found most of my CSD by scanning data points in + Low Sec, ++ Low Sec and + Medium Sec settlements.

 

[Zeromancer]

Thanks for the list. Very helpful. [up]

 

[Soulkiller]

Sadly the Scientific Layout layout is either out of date or there are different layouts with other randomly placed Data Points.

 

[VicTic]

Hello, commanders!

I wrote a tool that presents data on known planetary settlements near your location.

URL: http://edtools.ddns.net/settl.php

The data was NOT gathered by me, and was taken from this document by CMDR Dja. I wrote a web app to make it a bit easier.

- To start, enter the name of the system you're in and click "Find".
- Hovering over settlement type displays an icon as a tooltip
- Clicking on any of the links in "Maps" column will display the corresponding picture in a new tab.
- Clicking on system name displays the whole list with distances calculated from that system.
- The "No threat only" checkbox filters out the settlements that won't allow your SRV to enter the perimeter.

This is in beta, so any suggestions and opinions are welcome.

Fly safe! o7
CMDR VicTic

 

[Drownerfood]

This is excellent! I was just wanting a simple search tool like this yesterday. I have contributed a bit of data to the lists, but the original spreadsheet isn't that easy to search by location. The popup settlement map is very nice.
Suggestion: filters for security level, and even specific base type. Security level directly determines what you might get from scanning a base, and then some base types are easier to scan than others, or give a higher chance of giving what you particularly want.

 

[VicTic]

This is excellent! I was just wanting a simple search tool like this yesterday. I have contributed a bit of data to the lists, but the original spreadsheet isn't that easy to search by location. The popup settlement map is very nice.
Suggestion: filters for security level, and even specific base type. Security level directly determines what you might get from scanning a base, and then some base types are easier to scan than others, or give a higher chance of giving what you particularly want.

Hello, CMDR, nice to see you again. Yes, I saw your contributions in the list.

Good suggestions, thank you.

For now, you can add "&z=SIZE_LETTER" to the url to filter by size. Also, "&c=SECURITY_LETTER" to filter by security level. The SIE_LETTER is S, M or L, and SECURITY_LETTER is L, M or H. So, the url http://edtools.ddns.net/settl.php?s=TZ+Arietis&c=M&z=L will produce the list of settlements of large size and medium security.

I will need some time to decide hot to organize GUI for filtering.

 

[sqzbox1]

These are great tools - well done! I've done the MEF loop as recommended once and used them all up and now going around them again. I was wondering though, is there a tool to calculate an optimal route? On my first round it seemed to me that I was backtracking a lot, and the distances seemed quite high. It would be nice to be able to enter a dozen or so systems and have an optimal route plotted. I suppose you wold have to enter your jump range capability as well, and perhaps preferred starting system or some such. Does this exist already?

 

[sqzbox1]

Couple suggestions for you Cmdr VicTic.
1. I don't know if this is possible but adding gravity would be useful - allows us to exclude difficult ones. Ones where flying the SRV is impossible for example.
2. Auto refresh when clicking the no threat only button would be nice.
3. Could you filter on Type? For example, only want L1M.

 

[VicTic]

I was wondering though, is there a tool to calculate an optimal route? On my first round it seemed to me that I was backtracking a lot, and the distances seemed quite high. It would be nice to be able to enter a dozen or so systems and have an optimal route plotted. I suppose you wold have to enter your jump range capability as well, and perhaps preferred starting system or some such. Does this exist already?

That's a classic "travelling salesman" problem, and I never aimed to offer a solution. The next best thing would be to go to the nearest system, then sort the list by disrtance from that system, etc. The downside is you'd have to remember the systems you already visited.

Couple suggestions for you Cmdr VicTic.
1. I don't know if this is possible but adding gravity would be useful - allows us to exclude difficult ones. Ones where flying the SRV is impossible for example.
2. Auto refresh when clicking the no threat only button would be nice.
3. Could you filter on Type? For example, only want L1M.

Thank you for the suggestions!

I can only display the info that's there, and gravity is not. Auto-refresh on click - no, I won't be implementing this, mostly for usability reasons - there is a button to start search, and having something else do it might be confusing from UI point of view. I might add filtering by all three parts of type.

 

[Drownerfood]

These are great tools - well done! I've done the MEF loop as recommended once and used them all up and now going around them again. I was wondering though, is there a tool to calculate an optimal route? On my first round it seemed to me that I was backtracking a lot, and the distances seemed quite high. It would be nice to be able to enter a dozen or so systems and have an optimal route plotted. I suppose you wold have to enter your jump range capability as well, and perhaps preferred starting system or some such. Does this exist already?

This does already exist. They're a little more than I usually need though. Try
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ase-data-point-scanning-helper-tool?p=5144108
or
http://edu-c3s.rhcloud.com/systems/settlements/
or possibly
http://ed.b101010.ru/aul/
although it seems to be more of a distance list, like VicTic's? There must be something that attracts Russians to this particular problem.
I haven't used these tools, since I did initial scouting for a bunch of the bases, so I haven't needed to farm a lot of firmware at once.

Really, it's not too difficult to just pick a ++[medium security] settlement from the system navigation screen and just go scan it for MEF.

 

[Drownerfood]

Hello, CMDR, nice to see you again. Yes, I saw your contributions in the list.

Good suggestions, thank you.

For now, you can add "&z=SIZE_LETTER" to the url to filter by size. Also, "&c=SECURITY_LETTER" to filter by security level. The SIE_LETTER is S, M or L, and SECURITY_LETTER is L, M or H. So, the url http://edtools.ddns.net/settl.php?s=TZ+Arietis&c=M&z=L will produce the list of settlements of large size and medium security.

I will need some time to decide hot to organize GUI for filtering.

One thing about this is users would have to know what they're looking for and what settlement types provide what. Judging from the usual questions in this thread and my own experience, it's extremely confusing at first. There are over 50 settlement types, without looking at DJA's data result spreadsheet showing what data comes from where, most people would have no clue. There needs to either be a key explaining what security level means for data drops, or have people pick what type of data they are after, and the app gives them a list of the right type of settlements.

 

[CMDR Redcrest]

Does anyone want to wing up with me and go collect some MEF. I've been using pathfinder but I just keep getting rotten luck with MEF.
This would be more fun with company!
I could outfit the Keelback for dropping 'bombs' (mines) on the base and then assault the base with fighters for extra fun if you want...

 

[VicTic]

One thing about this is users would have to know what they're looking for and what settlement types provide what. Judging from the usual questions in this thread and my own experience, it's extremely confusing at first. There are over 50 settlement types, without looking at DJA's data result spreadsheet showing what data comes from where, most people would have no clue. There needs to either be a key explaining what security level means for data drops, or have people pick what type of data they are after, and the app gives them a list of the right type of settlements.

Frankly, I don't have a slightest idea myself. If you can point me to a resource that explains the relation between settlement type and the loot, I'll include a link.

 

[Drownerfood]

Frankly, I don't have a slightest idea myself. If you can point me to a resource that explains the relation between settlement type and the loot, I'll include a link.

Well... here it is. It probably won't make sense at first to most people.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...7-vOFwRSC35sbaonI7vvp58_HQ/edit#gid=500360676

Going down the sheet, the sheet gives a summary of loot by size and security level, then by security level for all settlement types, then the loot drop statistics for each specific settlement type.
To start off there's this generalization, REGARDLESS of SIZE:
low security settlements are good for specialized legacy firmware and modified consumer firmware.
medium sec give cracked industrial firmware, security firmware patch and MODIFIED EMBEDDED FIRMWARE; no specialized legacy firmware to be found here.
it's harder to generalize high security settlements, they are mostly like med. sec. with higher quantity drops, but if you are going after those you better know what you're doing.

One issue is that this data is from many many users, so some stats have reported drop rates of ~0.05 which is from a single reported case. I suspect these are from errors in selecting the settlement type. If you ignore these low-chance cases, what comes from where is more clear.

 

[VicTic]

Well... here it is. It probably won't make sense at first to most people.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...7-vOFwRSC35sbaonI7vvp58_HQ/edit#gid=500360676

Going down the sheet, the sheet gives a summary of loot by size and security level, then by security level for all settlement types, then the loot drop statistics for each specific settlement type.
To start off there's this generalization, REGARDLESS of SIZE:
low security settlements are good for specialized legacy firmware and modified consumer firmware.
medium sec give cracked industrial firmware, security firmware patch and MODIFIED EMBEDDED FIRMWARE; no specialized legacy firmware to be found here.
it's harder to generalize high security settlements, they are mostly like med. sec. with higher quantity drops, but if you are going after those you better know what you're doing.

One issue is that this data is from many many users, so some stats have reported drop rates of ~0.05 which is from a single reported case. I suspect these are from errors in selecting the settlement type. If you ignore these low-chance cases, what comes from where is more clear.

Thank you! You're right, it won't clarify much. What are "seeds"?

 

[Drownerfood]

Seeds are.. what used to be one drop, but now gives 3 pieces of something. DJA started the list and statistics before FD changed it, so he kept the recording method to stay consistent.
So when you get 3 of this, and 6 of that: 1 seed of this and 2 of that.

 

[khaos526]

So are only these types of layout paths the ones you can get the MFE's from? For instance could I possible get MFE's from the L1L type or does it have to be the L1M type? Kind of unsure what the naming versions are as I see them listed on http://edtools.ddns.net/settl.php?s=HR+5996 and https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...jeGuIyvvlQzQ/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=1203844628
but with out any explanation (unless I missed it)?

Anyways found a MFE successful location at Lovelace Legacy in the Popoconibo System which I don't see listed (unless it's been mentioned in the other 46 pages, but doing a search for the system in the forum comes up blank).

The reason I ask this is because I'm jumping from industrial system to industrial system looking at all the +, ++ and +++ bases and so far the only one that I've encountered an MFE at was the L1M base listed above. All the other various types not listed in this post have yielded nothing. So wasn't sure if it only works for the L1M in an industrial layout or if it's just a random thing and I just happened to luck out to get it from the L1M and not the L1L types?

 

[Comrade Napoleon]

What you get IS rather random.
I took 2 days going through the med sec bases, with the no combat tick. !st day five hours 11 bases later not a single Mef , some othe useful stuff. Several of the places were listed as high probability drop places.
Second day visited anothe 11 places, 16 MEF's, 17 CIF's [big grin]
Well , RNG has a say apparently..
Just patiently go through the list and Fortuna will smile at you.

Cheers Cmdr's