Modes Mega ships open only content?

Stealthie

Stealthie
What about planets?

I mean, if somebody's trundling around on a planet's surface, gathering stealing mat's from a planet in the jurisdiction of my chosen faction, surely I should have the opportunity to prevent this egregious atrocity and teach the perpetrator the error of their ways?

And stars too.

I don't want people just scooping fuel, willy-nilly, without the opportunity to challenge their right to do so within the jurisdiction of my faction.

Open-Only Stars, planets, BGS, PP, Stations and megaships FTW!

People can choose to play in any mode they like but they shouldn't be able to interact with any of the stuff that my faction might lay claim to.

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Now, if you'll excuse me, it's time for my med's.
 

Toumal

Toumal
Ian Phillips said:
Back on topic please, or off this thread goes to the hotel.
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Frankly, I am sick and tired of these threads. The elephant in the room has never *ever* been addressed by any of the people championing for restricting game features to open-only. They are simply ignoring it and vociferously repeating their demand.

"I've asked for this so many times, everyone else should now just give in despite me not having any new and valid arguments."

Why are we having this kind of behavior?

Imagine me opening a thread about the neutron star boosts every month. I'd be banned from the forums, and rightfully so. How come this topic is getting so much leeway, considering the complete lack of coherent arguments coming from the proponents? I mean look at this:

WorldsGreatestForumDad said:
Fix griefing, Objective based gameplay. All good points.
Burning down the hotel is required to fix this mess.
The game is toxic because of the problems that exists.
Its gonna burn. Not because I or others say so. Because of the cause and effect the game design has had on the community.
There is your reality.
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What does that even mean? How is this in any way a valid response to the very real issues (see link above!) that come with trying to restrict Megaships or the BGS to open mode? It feels like arguing with a pre-teen kid about economics that just screams "But I want inflation to be 0%!!!" over and over again.

Casus said:
Guys, the Fuel Rats just had their faction taken over by a group in private and there NOTHING they can do about it. They can’t go and confront these people because said people who confronted the Fuel Rats faction are hiding in a PG and are afraid to come out. This is the kind of crap we’re trying to make you guys see. But you have your heads so far up your rear ends that you can’t listen to simple reason.
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And we are telling you why this is the case and why there is no easy fix and why "making it open-only" won't work, but you are not listening, you are just repeating your request over and over as if that makes the issues go away. It does not. We're listening. You're not. You're either not reading the posts above, or willfully ignoring it.

WorldsGreatestForumDad said:
Oh wow you guys are still here?
Just a reminder, player factions should be able to defend themselves against another set of players attacking their controlling factions or expansion. Players shouldn't be able to remove themselves for a competitive advantage and still complete an objective against the active players playing the game.
Anyone that argues against this is indeed FOR griefing to continue in this game. And core changes are needed to fix the toxicity in this game so people understand why they would be shot at.
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You too. Do you have a solution for the issues of your proposal?
No? Have you read and understood the problem? Do you understand why your request is neither solving the problem nor is it practical to demand Frontier to abandon P2P?

Or are you just reiterating the same request over and over because you just really want that inflation to be 0% because oh let's not think about it too hard, everything is gonna be awesome. Oh and as Ziggy pointed out, there's no griefing in EvE obviously, because griefing will be fixed if only you could do blockades. I'd love to do blockades. But they're not going to happen in Elite Dangerous, because reality. And griefing wouldn't end even if blockades and 100% being able to intercept players were possible, so don't just blanked claim that it would..

Stop. Just... stop. Respond to the issues raised, or don't respond at all. And don't repeat your request unless you can propose a solution to the issues that come with your request.
 
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M00ka

M00ka
Taimaru said:
Is the pin only available in open?
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Yep, FD finally caved in and have made certain things Mode dependent, from here forth the number of probes made will be made available thus:

Open - Number of probes that fit on the head of a pin

PG - Number of probes that fit in a thimble

Solo - Number of probes that fit in a bucket

That should keep this thread going ;)
 

Dietger

Dietger
Wyldwiisel said:
If Megaships can be attacked by a squadron of players and defended by another squadron surely this should be open only content or you will have players killing off other factions Megaships in the privacy of their own server where the owning faction can do nothing about it?
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Modes have their flaws apparently.

Squadrons attacking a m-ship can only be defeated in the same mode. You can't defend in game assets like ships etc, only counterattacks are possible. While modes share the play ground, their dividing nature obviously limits interplay.
Splitting the "galaxy" comes with a price.
 

Parmo

Parmo
Kaltern said:
Little Boy: Dad... you know football?

Dad: Yes son?

Little Boy: Well, I was wondering... it's fun to watch an' all, but wouldn't it be better if they just picked it up instead of having to just kick it?

Dad: No son, then it wouldn't be the same game. There are other games with that rule.

Little Boy: Oh, there is? I bet they're way cooler than football! What's it called?

Dad: Well, there's one called American Football. Here, let me show you. (switches TV channel)

Little Boy: Wow! They're... they're running WITH the ball... Dad Look! That guy just grabbed the other by his legs - that must be a foul!

Dad: No son, that's how they win the ball in this game, they try to drag each other to the ground.

Little Boy: But.. but isn't that cheating? You can't do that in football? And why is it called American Football if they don't use their feet?

Dad: That is one of the great mysteries of the universe son.

Little Boy: Oh. But Dad... which game is better? And why can't footballers just pick up the ball a little bit, it would be much easier, and funner too!

Dad: That isn't how Football is played son. You can't just change the rules just because you think it'd be better. That's why we have other games, like American Football, and Rugby.

Little Boy: Rugby? What's that Dad?

Dad: ... I have no idea Son.
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Just try that discussion with golf! The solo player in open.:D

babelfisch said:
It's a trick question, isn't it?
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It's bound to come up in a job interview.
 

WorldsGreatestForumDad

Banned
WorldsGreatestForumDad
I really like the part where they mentioned the 6 different types of scenarios that happen during a conflict zone. And if you are able to complete the scenario for your side. It counts as extra points for the BGS stuff. It happens at random and at random times.

Do they have the chance to stack?

Is it a one time deal per conflict zone?
 

biot

biot
Toumal said:
"I've asked for this so many times, everyone else should now just give in despite me not having any new and valid arguments."
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This. So much of this. Not just for this topic either. I agree with all of your post BTW 100%. There is very little in the way of informed argument, just attritional warfare.
 

Darkfyre99

Darkfyre99
rlsg said:
I think it can be taken as a given that they are referring to the few vocal PvPers that have been complaining rather than specifically PvPers in general. This is a long running debate that has been going on for years, and it seems to be the same few names that crop up each time. :rolleyes:
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I just call a spade a spade and call that type player-killers, since that’s what the type of player who preferentially attacks non-PvPers has been called for 40 years.

Personally, I think it’s far too cool a term to be used on them, but “Players so unskilled at PvP that they need to attack PvE players in order to achieve any kind of victory, and will combat log whenever faced with a fair fight, or it looks like they might be faced with a fair fight, or there’s someone in the area who might be a fair fight,” is a bit too unwieldy to type every time. ;)
 

Wyldwiisel

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It's ok for Fuel rats to get griefed in private server what will you say when it's your group
Even the likes of Cannon prob couldn't defend themselves from big private group
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Wyldwiisel said:
It's ok for Fuel rats to get griefed in private server what will you say when it's your group
Even the likes of Cannon prob couldn't defend themselves from big private group
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You mean like when mobius group was attacked? I had no pc at the time so could not help.... However it was fine, that is the game!
 
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