No-onjas.
Caninnjas
Modes Mega ships open only content?
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Caninnjas
No-onjas.
Stupid spellchecker, never gets the damn word right ….
Ian Phillips
Volunteer Moderator
And welcome to the Hotel.
Check in at the desk. Good luck trying to leave.
Check in at the desk. Good luck trying to leave.
Which is why it would be nice if there were a few aspects of the game for CGs, Powerplay and possibly Faction related gameplay, that were OPEN only, and orchestrated PvP gameplay for those interested...
If they were to do so, any player on a console without gold or PS+ would not be able to take part.
This would be a minor set of "tasks" specifically created to exist just in OPEN, just to allow the game to orchestrate PvP. eg: If we put it in the context of Powerplay, a couple of dedicated tasks between two Powers specifically aimed to orchestrate OPEN PvP.
For those not interested, or unable to participate, the problem?
You wanted to help that's my point you can't there in a private server killing your mega ship
Frontier need to at least weight the influence depending on where they are doing it from
Frontier need to at least weight the influence depending on where they are doing it from
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Neither.
Both are playing the game as designed.
In fact, I’d say the private group is doing the Fuel Rats a favor. It’s far easier to harm the controlling faction when you trick those supporting it into blowing you up. It’s kind of a three for one deal.
Absolute.
When we lock away "competition" behind artificial boundaries or networking walls, certain aspects such as "opposition" become futile. For many competition shares the very same environment, at least in PvP which is "strictly competitive" and expects live players, while Elite in its "Zero-sum game" scenarios, allows none competitive solutions inside the modes system. Out of reach. We face the resulting unsatisfying situations for years now, because certain aspect in modes allow no "strictly competitive" solutions inside the modes system. "PvP left alone". While none competitive players in Open become "victims" at the same time ....
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By the by, just to make sure we all remain honest.
Discussion over this was started in the DDF. By PvE players. I was there, following concerns about the ALL-groupe.
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Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Developer led or among the DDF itself?
... because the DDF member(s) who wanted Solo and Private Groups to be deleted rather obviously didn't get their way either....
As for the DDF, go take a look [smile]
Yes, we are still where we started mode wise. Certainly not any better.
S!
at the end of April this year someone said
"Doesnt mean it wont change in the future.
My future looks bright in this area. What was that company that signed on with Frontier again? And what did they do for Legends?
And then Squadrons. Man Sqaudrons is gonna be so cool. Especially since they wont make the same mistake with them as they did with powerplay right? RIGHT? Or do you think they will electrocute themselves on the same part of the fence twice?
And Engineers "A level playing field for all".
And sandro saying "Powerplay was supposed to be the outlet for consensual PVP" As in you knew what you were getting yourself into when you singed up for it. How many of us PVPers are here? And how many are using that for that purpose? When everyone is in the modes undermining? How many threads over the years have you seen about this issue that was stuffed into the Hotel?
Let me explain something to you here. If I can see all that, the modules not being used, ship builds are bare bones and so on.
Frontier Game Devs see it too. Just like that powerplay thread in 2016 when they recognized risk and reward. Just because they didnt change something then. Doesnt mean they wont at any time...
The LAST THING a dev wants is parts of their game not being used. Whens the last time you all seen a PVPer or BGSer use a wake scanner to hunt someone down? Or is that just for materials?...
You all use the " We are aware the pvp community is small". Like you're using it against this conversation. When in fact. It helps this side of the conversation. How long have people been asking for meaningful PVP?
More people are involved with the BGS now than Powerplay stuff. Especially the major player groups.
And most of them want the open private solo stuff killed off for squadrons.
This is about Balancing the game. And if it makes a few of you here unhappy about it. Then so be it.
If BALANCING the game when it comes to other players bothers you. Then maybe you're playing the wrong game.
We have about 8 more months. Start cleaning out your guys' room for the Hotel.
Ya'll have 8 months to engineer your ships and git gud. Or its going to be a slaughter.
Ya'll gonna stay on the forums? Is this going to to be the story the The Hare & the Tortoise, http://read.gov/aesop/025.html ?
All signs point to change Maynard. If you'll just listen to what they say.
I know you're a mod on their youtube channel, do you pay attention to the things they say or willingly turn a blind eye to them? I do remember you saying how much of a shocker the Engineers 3.0 was in their chat.
Dont be shocked when the rest of that happens too."
How is that working out?
"Doesnt mean it wont change in the future.
My future looks bright in this area. What was that company that signed on with Frontier again? And what did they do for Legends?
And then Squadrons. Man Sqaudrons is gonna be so cool. Especially since they wont make the same mistake with them as they did with powerplay right? RIGHT? Or do you think they will electrocute themselves on the same part of the fence twice?
And Engineers "A level playing field for all".
And sandro saying "Powerplay was supposed to be the outlet for consensual PVP" As in you knew what you were getting yourself into when you singed up for it. How many of us PVPers are here? And how many are using that for that purpose? When everyone is in the modes undermining? How many threads over the years have you seen about this issue that was stuffed into the Hotel?
Let me explain something to you here. If I can see all that, the modules not being used, ship builds are bare bones and so on.
Frontier Game Devs see it too. Just like that powerplay thread in 2016 when they recognized risk and reward. Just because they didnt change something then. Doesnt mean they wont at any time...
The LAST THING a dev wants is parts of their game not being used. Whens the last time you all seen a PVPer or BGSer use a wake scanner to hunt someone down? Or is that just for materials?...
You all use the " We are aware the pvp community is small". Like you're using it against this conversation. When in fact. It helps this side of the conversation. How long have people been asking for meaningful PVP?
More people are involved with the BGS now than Powerplay stuff. Especially the major player groups.
And most of them want the open private solo stuff killed off for squadrons.
This is about Balancing the game. And if it makes a few of you here unhappy about it. Then so be it.
If BALANCING the game when it comes to other players bothers you. Then maybe you're playing the wrong game.
We have about 8 more months. Start cleaning out your guys' room for the Hotel.
Ya'll have 8 months to engineer your ships and git gud. Or its going to be a slaughter.
Ya'll gonna stay on the forums? Is this going to to be the story the The Hare & the Tortoise, http://read.gov/aesop/025.html ?
All signs point to change Maynard. If you'll just listen to what they say.
I know you're a mod on their youtube channel, do you pay attention to the things they say or willingly turn a blind eye to them? I do remember you saying how much of a shocker the Engineers 3.0 was in their chat.
Dont be shocked when the rest of that happens too."
How is that working out?
Just how deep do you think I can stack potato routers? If it makes a few pew-pews unhappy, then so be it.
...and so many people thought the Hotel California was closed for business with this set of updates!
It will never close, because the devs are not going to back down on the way the game is designed to work!
So get them cargo containers ready guys! Look sharp on those NPC's pew pew people! The only way to fight each other is by moving those PVE trophies!
Without inputs into the BGS game, PVP remains a sideshow for people that can't deal with the real game play!
It will never close, because the devs are not going to back down on the way the game is designed to work!
So get them cargo containers ready guys! Look sharp on those NPC's pew pew people! The only way to fight each other is by moving those PVE trophies!
Without inputs into the BGS game, PVP remains a sideshow for people that can't deal with the real game play!
I find the silence of WorldGreatestForumDad, Dietger et al about the issues raised multiple times very telling.
At this point it's basically clear that you guys are not interested in the actual topic. You have an agenda. You don't actually care about the BGS because if you did, what others and myself posted prior would make you think.
You don't care about megaships because really, there's no salt to be mined there.
Here is the link to the issues: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ships-open-only-content?p=7110791#post7110791
None of you have bothered to respond. You're glossing over it. You're avoiding a response, because you know you don't have one. But you don't care, what you want is to force as many people into open. Not because you want a fair fight about BGS states or to make a megaship survive or die. You know it's not gonna happen, and that's not your objectve anyway it seems.
This thread, and all threads like it, should be locked until such a time as there's an actual proposal for a solution involved.
Because as I see it, one side is bringing up arguments, and another side is ignoring those arguments and just repeating their initial request to lock stuff to open only.
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At this point it's basically clear that you guys are not interested in the actual topic. You have an agenda. You don't actually care about the BGS because if you did, what others and myself posted prior would make you think.
You don't care about megaships because really, there's no salt to be mined there.
Here is the link to the issues: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ships-open-only-content?p=7110791#post7110791
None of you have bothered to respond. You're glossing over it. You're avoiding a response, because you know you don't have one. But you don't care, what you want is to force as many people into open. Not because you want a fair fight about BGS states or to make a megaship survive or die. You know it's not gonna happen, and that's not your objectve anyway it seems.
This thread, and all threads like it, should be locked until such a time as there's an actual proposal for a solution involved.
Because as I see it, one side is bringing up arguments, and another side is ignoring those arguments and just repeating their initial request to lock stuff to open only.
Edit DD_crash removed from list.
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I do NOT want open only. In fact I have never bothered with it. And if it did happen then I would stop playing ED. There are too many problems with an open only concept as Elite is not in my opinion a Space Combat Simulator, in fact it is much more than that. For me that is the main complaint that the PvP have with the game although no one will say it.