Metacritic user score is looking good so far

in the end the metacritic score will be very accurate, good day.

Accurate to what exactly? How does an average opinion relate to a personal opinion?
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an example
Strawberry Cheesecake is reviewed, Some people love cheesecake and don't care what flavour it comes in, they give it 10/10 without even tasting it. Some like Cheesecake but not Strawberries, they give it a 0/10. Over the course of a few hundred "opinions" the average works out to 5/10 for Strawberry cheesecake.
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I've never had cheesecake before, how does 5/10 relate to me? should I buy Strawberry cheesecake? Is it better than Chocolate Cheesecake which scored 7/10? Depends on if you prefer chocolate to strawberries I suppose but to know that I would have had to already bought and tried both....
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The point is, Metacritic is pointless, it's supposed to be used by the industry to gauge an average opinion, it's not meant for fan boys and haters to wage war on trying to force an average score to appear that lines up with their own, that's an abuse of a system that was never designed to inform purchasers of products.
 
Player reviews are worthless, even more so if it's flooded with apologists trying to shout down any dissenting voices, regardless of their merit.

The professional reviews, which are the only reviews that matter, are going to be at a level of honesty probably not to anyone's liking here.
 
The 10/10s are as worthless as the 0/10s - they're both lies. The game is not a train wreck, the game is not perfect. Anyone giving those scores is basically lying to game the system.
 
Accurate to what exactly? How does an average opinion relate to a personal opinion?
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an example
Strawberry Cheesecake is reviewed, Some people love cheesecake and don't care what flavour it comes in, they give it 10/10 without even tasting it. Some like Cheesecake but not Strawberries, they give it a 0/10. Over the course of a few hundred "opinions" the average works out to 5/10 for Strawberry cheesecake.
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I've never had cheesecake before, how does 5/10 relate to me? should I buy Strawberry cheesecake? Is it better than Chocolate Cheesecake which scored 7/10? Depends on if you prefer chocolate to strawberries I suppose but to know that I would have had to already bought and tried both....
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The point is, Metacritic is pointless, it's supposed to be used by the industry to gauge an average opinion, it's not meant for fan boys and haters to wage war on trying to force an average score to appear that lines up with their own, that's an abuse of a system that was never designed to inform purchasers of products.

Please provide a link to a user/gamer review site that is credible in your opinion. Thx.
 

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What I think is disappointing that atm its pure black&white. Either a cmdr gives a 9 or 10 - really?.
Or Ed is been given a 4 or lower. Very little in between. It looks as if cmdrs are trying to give ED a good rap by giving it a 9 or 10.
Its of course their personal opinion but giving a good platform a 9 or 10 with SO many things missing atm (ie wings, lots of the DDF-archives) is a bit strange......
I've given it a 6 because of what is currently is, NOT what it will (hopefully) be in a year or so.
 
What I think is disappointing that atm its pure black&white. Either a cmdr gives a 9 or 10 - really?.
Or Ed is been given a 4 or lower. Very little in between. It looks as if cmdrs are trying to give ED a good rap by giving it a 9 or 10.
Its of course their personal opinion but giving a good platform a 9 or 10 with SO many things missing atm (ie wings, lots of the DDF-archives) is a bit strange......
I've given it a 6 because of what is currently is, NOT what it will (hopefully) be in a year or so.

Yea, anything above an 8 or below a 4 is probably pushing the boundaries of reason :D

I gave it a 5 because in my opinion that's what it is, in its current state (i.e. mediocre as a game) as a technical achievement it's pretty astounding, but yea this is a game after all so should be judged on gameplay primarily. Hopefully with the release of expansions that bring more engaging gameplay I will change my mind.
 
What I think is disappointing that atm its pure black&white. Either a cmdr gives a 9 or 10 - really?.
Or Ed is been given a 4 or lower. Very little in between. It looks as if cmdrs are trying to give ED a good rap by giving it a 9 or 10.
Its of course their personal opinion but giving a good platform a 9 or 10 with SO many things missing atm (ie wings, lots of the DDF-archives) is a bit strange......
I've given it a 6 because of what is currently is, NOT what it will (hopefully) be in a year or so.

It's hard to know until things settle down. The people with strong opinions will be the first to post. And it's very hard to tell from forums what people really think just because angry threads tend to generate more responses and attention than mild-mannered ones. If I go on the forums for some of the best games ever made they're dominated by people complaining and demanding refunds!

Personally, I'd give it a 7 at the moment. Excellent framework, loads of potential but not quite there yet. If I was being cruel I'd say it's a screensaver with great combat. But the combat is very good and the screensaver is wildly impressive!
 
At metascore user score means nothing without the "professional" critique score, after you see both you can "read between the lines" better. I mean a game with 5-6ish critique score and 4-5 user score is bad with mostly 4,5 scores by users. But if the critique score is around 8 but the user score is 4-5 with scores mostly 10 or 0 than its just that the game is love or hate thing and I guess this will be exactly the case with this game.
 
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Thanks for the personal attack, how considerate of you.

I stated that popular opinion is worthless when making a personal choice. The most popular flavour of crisp/chip is ready salted. The most popular colour is Grey. The most popular band in the world are the Spice Girls. The most popular dish is bland. How am I supposed to use this information to make a purchasing decision? Metacritic was never designed to aid purchasing a product especially those that are subject to personal taste and opinion, it's an industry tool that fanboys/haters use incorrectly to bolster their own opinion. Which part of this do you not understand?

Metacritic wasn't designed to tell people about how popular a game is. It was designed to aggregate user scores and the fact that it's available to the general public (rather than as a tool for industry) disproves your point. I don't understand where you are coming from, seems like you are confused as to the function of metacritic from the posts that you've written.

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At metascore user score means nothing without the "professional" critique score, after you see both you can "read between the lines" better. I mean a game with 5-6ish critique score and 4-5 user score is bad with mostly 4,5 scores by users. But if the critique score is around 8 but the user score is 4-5 with scores mostly 10 or 0 than its just that the game is love or hate thing and I guess this will be exactly the case with this game.

Yes, the more data you have the more informed your decision will be +1
 
Metacritic can be problematic because different review sources have different weight. So one person on a heavily weighed review site could potentially have an unreasonable impact on the overall score. User scores are sometimes fair, sometimes not. Places like 4Chan sometimes organise zero-bombing on titles "just for fun", for example.

Regardless, lots of gamers will judge a game based on its Metacritic score, for better or worse.
 
Gotta love the mods on this forum...

"Dropped on the head as a kid" = warning about offensive language :D

Jesus dudes, maybe you can send the guy a warning for the use of fanboys/haters then? Because that is clearly as emotive/offensive as anything I've said?

One is an insult and very rude that may or may not affect someone else, one is a passionate stance that only affects yourself... come on, it isn't even nearly the same.
 
Metacritic wasn't designed to tell people about how popular a game is. It was designed to aggregate user scores

That's the same thing! A game that has a metacritic score of 10 would be considered a highly popular game and another with a score of 0 would be considered unpopular, it seems as though it is yourself that is having trouble understanding. Average opinions are useful for businesses that want to cater to a larger audience and need to know what is popular with their intended market. Average opinions are useless for a purchaser as all opinions are subjective, a person can in their full right enjoy a game rated 0 on metacritic more than another title rated 10, so the scores themselves and the average of those scores are indeed worthless.
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You keep mentioning the Metacritic score will be "accurate" but you still haven't explained what it will be accurate to besides popular opinion?
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Edit: I'm glad you got a warning for suggesting I was dropped on my head as a child, I've done nothing but engage you in a civil and polite manner
 
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That's the same thing! A game that has a metacritic score of 10 would be considered a highly popular game and another with a score of 0 would be considered unpopular, it seems as though it is yourself that is having trouble understanding. Average opinions are useful for businesses that want to cater to a larger audience and need to know what is popular with their intended market. Average opinions are useless for a purchaser as all opinions are subjective, a person can in their full right enjoy a game rated 0 on metacritic more than another title rated 10, so the scores themselves and the average of those scores are indeed worthless.
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You keep mentioning the Metacritic score will be "accurate" but you still haven't explained what it will be accurate to besides popular opinion, somethign you deny it has anything to do with and how is that important to an individual consumer?

If 2 people rate a game 10/10 then it's popular? Come on fella you gonna have to use your noggin

The more people who rate a game the more accurate the score becomes, it's GCSE statistics, did you got school?

So let's say 5,000 people rate Elite on metacritic, I would say we have a pretty good distribution but that doesn't reflect in any way that the game is "popular" seeing as there are 6b people in the world.
 
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i never made a decision based of metacritic and i hope that someday no one will.

Metacritic is the voice of the people. Not the paid reviewers. It is far more realistic than any review. That is why you get averages and you take a cross section of opinions. You read the good ones and the bad ones and come to your own conclusions.

I find metacritic's user reviews to be the most accurate gauge of games than anything else out there. It isn't slanted by fanboys or haters. You can weed those out fast when you toss the top and lowest marks out.

Right now the user reviews are 77% Which is pretty accurate for its current state of the game. Come back in a year with the addition of much more content and features I can see it going up significantly.
 
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Metacritic is the voice of the people. Not the paid reviewers. It is far more realistic than any review. That is why you get averages and you take a cross section of opinions. You read the good ones and the bad ones and come to your own conclusions.

I find metacritic's user reviews to be the most accurate gauge of games than anything else out there. It isn't slanted by fanboys or haters. You can weed those out fast when you toss the top and lowest marks out.

Right now the user reviews are 77% Which is pretty accurate for its current state of the game. Come back in a year with the addition of much more content and features I can see it going up significantly.

Thanks for providing a voice of reason. ^^^This man knows what he's talking about
 
Please provide a link to a user/gamer review site that is credible in your opinion. Thx.

Hey! I'm a big fan of RockPaperShotgun.com but only because after years of reading around they seemed best at reflecting how I felt about games and what I look for in a purchase. There's every chance these criteria will be different for yourself.

I like RPS because they don't issue scores, numbers at the end of a review have never helped me make a good purchase whereas the words and opinions above that score are where I can judge how my own tastes line up with those of the reviewer.
 
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