My open letter to Fdev
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As I said, I am not going to crawl through all the previous CGs, do it yourself if you care.But your argument is flawed anyway: the whole 'parity between modes promise' wasn't about CGs, as when the promise was made there was no such thing as a community goal (came with 1.1). The largest competition so far was Open Only, so the 'promise' of parity clearly doesnt mean what you think it does. This is also reinforced by FD saying they consider reducing the contributions of Solo/PG players to powerplay.
tl;dr the 'promise of parity' isn't CG specific, and FD has in the past and plans in the future to have non-parity in some aspects.
Nothing was bring reduced in solo or groups sandro was thinking out loud about the possibility of powers getting a larger reward in open. The opposite of what dbobe and mb have already confirmed. Maybe he missed the memo who knows heard anything more about it since his initial post? No me neither. So when again did they say this was going to happen?
Well, this is interesting question in any game, not only in ED.
Personally, I am more happy if developers make and decide the story and outcomes, especially in any MMO game. Because in 99% devs are much better than players in story telling etc. Of course, there are some rare exceptions, especially in single-player games. Namely some mods for Skyrim are better than original game content etc.
I would laugh if it was perm. I mean if FD would ban them perm for this when they wont ban people who have hacked and confessed to it and just send them one warning email after another
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I would agree if they marketed it that way but they say it is players actions that decide the story in the advertising
This is going well, as usual...lol.
Totally agree!
As I said before...There is absolutely no solid data available to back up this minority's claim that SOLO and Private Group players are banding together in some kind of organized objective against them. That is just paranoid crazy talk. But it represents the entire foundation of their argument.
Its pathetic and ridiculous on its face.
There is no data to show that Solo and Private Group players approach a CG any differently than any number of OPEN players do. Whatever side wins, has the majority of players participating for that side. This includes EVERYONE playing the game.
I like to think that those on this idiotic crusade are naive adolescents with a poor grasp of human nature. Any adults in their group are in serious need of professional help!
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That would involve understanding something about the game if it happened they might realise its not eve with ghost modes its elite. That would involve them admitting they bought the wrong game. It will happen just takes longer with the really slow one's
As I posted, there were people in Mobius who were working on the BDS as far as closing the station. They were just diong it by killing Fed Security Service Vessels. Since they were in Mobius, and it is PVE, even if I had WANTED to stop him, I would not, because I, like over 24,000 others agreed to not PVP in Mobius. So you are complaining about how Mobius can affect BDS, Mobius just like open, has people working on all sides and all factions. There was no overarching call in Mobius to support the CG, and even if there had been, Mobius is not "run" like a military group, or an order. The only real rule is NO PVP. Other than that, you are as free to do what you want as anyone else is.
Uh, that's kinda how it works.
cool stuff, but that's difficult if the community is split to begin with. indeed a more ingenious and encompassing action would have been nicer.
frontier is a governing body in this case and yes, coercing players could be compared to a form of terrorism but allegedly it was a blockade, against frontier's cg
And all the time I thought it was down to the beer...
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I dont know , letting players creat unlore friendly factions and nonsens like battleship bob was what made me not play the game in the end...
It felt like 4chan became a game
The idea behind community goals was supposed to encourage players to work together for a common goal; they were not really designed with counteraction in mind. However, when there are CGs that a group of players would -- for whatever reason -- like to oppose, I can see where the frustration comes from that there's actually no effective way to oppose it when you can drop down into solo or group. There's no easy solution: you can't limit all CGs to just open, else solo/group players cannot get involved. You could limit *some* CGs to open if they're likely to cause conflict, but even those *unlikely* will end up doing just that (especially when there are groups with an agenda).
My feeling is that there *should* be a way to oppose a CG. Similar to PP, perhaps there could be dual goals. One goal to progress the CG, another to impede it. In many cases you'll get groups impeding CGs just because they can, but as long as they stick by the rules in doing so, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with that. I also think that there should be a formal PvE flag for private groups with a corresponding EULA term to enforce it. I don't want the game nannying in that if someone comes into a PvE group they *should* still be able to shoot and kill other commanders, but if they do so outside of a defined set of rules (e.g. outside of a combat zone, no bounty, etc.) they should be subject to sanction.
Kind of totally NOT how it works!
When you and your friends can present this community with a statistical graph direct from the FD servers showing a disproportionate number of SOLO and Private Groups fighting for a specific side in a CG, one that demonstrates a completely different ratio than the players in OPEN in that same CG, then we will take you seriously.
You have NOTHING like that to back up your claims, so all you are doing is inventing a problem that doesn't really exist.
The majority who play this game have a serious problem with people who are hell bent on forcing their opinions and play style on the rest of us. We are fine with everyone playing the game the way they want to play it.
The fact that this vocal minority is incapable of that same courtesy speaks volumes. The simple fact that this group plays in OPEN is a good enough reason for many to avoid OPEN. Has nothing to do with combat skills or a fear of PvP. Some folks just would prefer not to play a game that has people like that involved in it.
Thank god for Solo and Private Groups! Without them, this game would have died a year ago.
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Well, even me think this is stupid seeing solo and private groups can intervene in open play. Powerplay and CG seems to be worthless if they dont fix this. At this point one must consider if its possible to fix it. But in theory it seems easy. Just let solo and private CG and Powerplay be seperate from open. I guess its another story to change the game aspect of it. Maybe easy fix. Put solo on 1 server, open on another and private on another. They have each a seperate CG and Powerplay. I cant see that being difficult at all. It will fix a lot of stuff.
This game is what it is: it always has, it probably always will be given FDEV's (lack of) response on this issue.
if players have an issue with open/solo/private. They should take it up with FDEV. They have no excuse knowingly breaking the rules of the private groups they infiltrate. Note the word "private."
If you were to take issue with some of my affairs in real life would that give you the right to go through my private stuff and attempt to "fix" them?
No..
players could have written an "OPEN LETTER TO FDEV" without PvPing in a PvE group and breaking the rules of the group... More importantly, stepping on the toes of people who have gone out of their way to get out of your (PvPers) ways.
Disclosure: I am a member of Möbius who tends to play in Open more than not, these days due to apparently declining numbers of active players in Möbius.
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