Names (both comander and ship)
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Robert Maynard
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If people want to advertise their affiliation in the commander's name, I would let them. It makes spotting wannabe guild members that much easier.
Bottom line, ED will be such a huge success and attract so many members from so many demographics it won't be possible to restrict numeric inclusion or malapropism (that's my word for the day 
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Xbox offers us an example of how the community can police itself by allowing select community members "Ambassadors" to allow or reject recent requests for new names via a simple web portal.
If a name receives a sufficient % of rejections after a particular number of votes, the members account could revert back to #123456 and an email could go out requesting they choose a more appropriate name as it has been declined by the community!
As Smithy once screamed "power to the people....."
Could free up valuable studio vetting time & make for a great little project for any junior developers that might be floating the corridors of power?
Personally, the only problem with including clan tags in gamer names is imitation and the devaluing of ethical communities by trolls & griefers :/ so group/clan titles would benefit from actual prefix/suffix to a gamers name and be strictly limited to valid group/clan members ONLY (another little dev project!)
Wouldn't want to be making these decisions myself, kudos Frontier! You guys rock, but please strike 1337 from the EDict.
).Xbox offers us an example of how the community can police itself by allowing select community members "Ambassadors" to allow or reject recent requests for new names via a simple web portal.
If a name receives a sufficient % of rejections after a particular number of votes, the members account could revert back to #123456 and an email could go out requesting they choose a more appropriate name as it has been declined by the community!
As Smithy once screamed "power to the people....."
Could free up valuable studio vetting time & make for a great little project for any junior developers that might be floating the corridors of power?
Personally, the only problem with including clan tags in gamer names is imitation and the devaluing of ethical communities by trolls & griefers :/ so group/clan titles would benefit from actual prefix/suffix to a gamers name and be strictly limited to valid group/clan members ONLY (another little dev project!)
Wouldn't want to be making these decisions myself, kudos Frontier! You guys rock, but please strike 1337 from the EDict.
Nice avatar Steve! Perfect example of good in-game advertising (although I've since given up on that happening).
Only problem with large-scale community actions is if there's a large clan. In ED's case the DDF would be your ambassadors and would react to community reporting. As long as they have the power to remove reporting powers from those that abuse them, that should address any clan-spam concern.
Whereas, if FD do want to enable people to have clan tags, having it as a separate field makes sense. It can be ignored/switched off and it allows people to change their clan tags without applying for another name change.
Only problem with large-scale community actions is if there's a large clan. In ED's case the DDF would be your ambassadors and would react to community reporting. As long as they have the power to remove reporting powers from those that abuse them, that should address any clan-spam concern.
There is that, but it also allows guilds to advertise/brag. In-game resources (e.g. GalNet news, bounty lists) will have commander names in them.
Whereas, if FD do want to enable people to have clan tags, having it as a separate field makes sense. It can be ignored/switched off and it allows people to change their clan tags without applying for another name change.
I'm ambivalent about this. Here's a litle story:
I've been a long time eve player and I remember KIA corp - basically an FPS clan called "KillerZ in Action" that joined the game in 2003 and the original members used KIA as a prefix to their character names.
After some initial success, they ended up completely failing, and as CCP doesn't allow for name changes, characters using the prefix were sold and always inherited the stigma of either having being bought or having been the member of a complete failure of an alliance.
So I'd say that including a clantag in a user name is rather shortsighted.
As a consequence, I'd prefer removing the ability to change user names unless it's an offensive name, rather than having a separate clantag you can change like your underwear.
Moreover, your poll is rather populist. Should people use clantags in a game that doesn't have clans? No
Should they be disallowed to do so? No
Should naming conventions be auto-limited to English customs? Definitely not. I love the variety of different cultures and would like to see them represented in the game.
There are enough options - assemble your own roleplaying group with thousands of members and play group only, or simply play in the all group and add anyone to your ignore list if you dislike the name.
I consider leetspeak an anachronism and always disliked it, but if someone wants to show it's his first day on the internet, let him.
Repression is always wrong.
There's no support in UTF-8 for Chinese or Arabic symbols. (EDIT: I think. I'll try them next after my current name change attempt) Would you like to see those in-game?
I got it wrong when I said to limit to the 26 letter English alphabet (should have been Latin alphabet, including grave, acute, etc.). What I was trying to aim for was (a) the removal of the non-letter UTF-8 symbols and (b) a system that could be largely automated, as pre-approving names is an inefficient way to manage it (especially if you allow name changes).
I voted yes to let people clan tag or use numbers etc. Simply because I think limiting people this way is a little too dictoral and would take up time that people could spend making elite even better.
Ah, so it's clearly a design decision that FD actively made (rather than an omission) to include characters such as £$%^&* in Commander names. I must have remembered the NPC name rule and assumes it applied to Commanders.
I'd like to try and set a new commander name (OpenFly was born in my CB radio days, and nothing to do with the allegations of zipper shenanigans). If my new request is rejected, do I lose my original accepted name?
Also, we'll be allowed to have 3 characters in-game - when will we be able to reserve names for these characters?
As for clan tags, in MY experience, they may as well all read [].
Also, we'll be allowed to have 3 characters in-game - when will we be able to reserve names for these characters?
As for clan tags, in MY experience, they may as well all read [].
"leetspeak" wasn't actually something I had taking any notice of until recently.
I'd always associated it as something 8-12yr old children were using - I'm not saying that to start a flame war - I really didn't know what it was!
Personally I'd rather not see it in Elite Dangerous as I feel that by the year 3300 it would be as dead as pig-latin is now.
As for clan tags... not something I'd be interested in and I thought that the Devs had already said they wouldn't be in the game, so shouldn't be part of peoples names.
It might be interessting to see how carefully Commanders are going to be in choosing ther names when ship to ship communication is put in place.
"Hello Commander with that silly name that no halfway sane being is able to pronounce. Identify yourself and state your intentions, please."
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I miss a 'I don't know / care / mind' option in the poll.
"Hello Commander with that silly name that no halfway sane being is able to pronounce. Identify yourself and state your intentions, please."
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I miss a 'I don't know / care / mind' option in the poll.
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That silly / no halfway sane name might be just a plain regular name in any language. And Should that commander change it only because other commanders can't pronounce it? Kind of silly...
It's kind of funny how people object Commander names and no one complains about forum names... Just saying... Not that they should... but it's same thing...
It's kind of funny how people object Commander names and no one complains about forum names... Just saying... Not that they should... but it's same thing...
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If your request is rejected you still keep your old name.
It's an interesting point about the other characters. I suspect that when you set the character up, it'll share your main reserved name. As part of the set-up process, you'll submit a name request for that new character and, once approved, that'll replace your main name on that particular character and will then be reserved for you.
I may be wrong, but I think he was referring to names such as mine (31337_BroMleY [KOOS]) rather than somone called Þórr.
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I'm ambivalent about it when it comes to character names. Passports from countries using different alphabets usually contain a transcription to Latin letters in order to give people not familiar with the writing system a clue on how to pronounce them.
I regularily used Hebrew, Arab, Chinese, Pharsi, Japanese and Korean names for my ships in Eve in their respective alphabets.
My opinion - commander names should be.reasonably sensible. Let's face it, no mother is gonna.call here baby commander somrthing with numbers or brackets in it (except maybe Richard III etc). With ship names more latitude is ok... silly names are fine but no gibberish names. Clan tags etc have no place in the game.
Mind you, I'd also like to ban the Kirks, Picards, Skywalkers, Reynalds etc too. I appreciate that people enjoy these shows and wish to identify them but really, use some imagination. Do you really think your favourite SciFi hero would be transporting coffee in a sidewinder?
Having said that, I'm aware that there's no chance of having that enforced. They will no more edit out gibberish names than they will try to force people to role play it. Pity, but there you go. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Mind you, I'd also like to ban the Kirks, Picards, Skywalkers, Reynalds etc too. I appreciate that people enjoy these shows and wish to identify them but really, use some imagination. Do you really think your favourite SciFi hero would be transporting coffee in a sidewinder?
Having said that, I'm aware that there's no chance of having that enforced. They will no more edit out gibberish names than they will try to force people to role play it. Pity, but there you go. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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You'd be surprised what mothers call their children and which surnames actually exist. I have personally met people who would most certainly be banned for using their real life name in any computer game.
Having people banned for something they like just because of your very own perception of it is a bit intolerant, don't you think?
I didn't call myself CATPAIN KIRK because I admire James T. Kirk in ST:TOS, but because it's one of the most generic SciFi Stereotypes around. Add all caps and a typo and semi-intelligent people will perceive you as a moron.
It's an experiment, not lackíng creativity. I started keeping track of the usernames I used in online communities and games since 1996 and I'm currently at 258.
It's not about wanting to watch the world burn, it's about watching people wanting to burn others for their names.
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Very little surprises me these days... I'll tqke your word for it.
Just to clarify I wasn't espousing banning the PLAYERS, just the use of names like that. I'd also like to point out that I opened by stating this was an opinion only, and closed saying that I'm aware that my opinion on this matter could never be enforced. As an opinion of course it's intolerant... opinions are quite personal and almost always intolerant of the opinions of others. I'd never suggest it be made an official policy tho, it's far too judgemental.
I really don't care that much what you call yourself tho I'd prefer to see something original. I just roll my eyes and fly on when I see the han solos and mal reynalds. That comment was more directed at people who play these games to spoil it for others rather than role play them. When they think about MMORPG's they concentrate on the MMO part and forget about the RPG bit.