Honestly beaver have very low chance compard to the rest.5 of the top 10 are all NA animals that have a very fair chance at making it in. I’m hoping it’s next.
Honestly beaver have very low chance compard to the rest.5 of the top 10 are all NA animals that have a very fair chance at making it in. I’m hoping it’s next.
Can I ask why you think so? I think beavers have more chances to be in the game because they could come in an North America or Europe pack, so if they don't come in one, they have a second chance.Honestly beaver have very low chance compard to the rest.
I mainly speak about North America dlc. I think, since sea lion probably will be in such pack, frontier wont include another hard to make animal. I might be wrong, but frontier probably already went easier route with existing rig and animations for that reason (as always) instead of beavers .Can I ask why you think so? I think beavers have more chances to be in the game because they could come in an North America or Europe pack, so if they don't come in one, they have a second chance.
Okay I'm very glad I found this thing because I have a list of lik 60 animals I want to see added. I ranked these on my personal opinion, the amount of animals already in their continent, their conservation status and their originality (How many similar animals their are to this one and how much interesting new enrichment items it could bring)After roughly half a year, and following the requests made by numerous forum users, I'm setting up this thread in order to start another 'Essential animals meta-wishlist' where I record users' animals wishlists and put them all together on a meta-wishlist. Given that we've gotten 3 DLCs since I started the previous thread; this time around I ask you all to please post a list of just 20 habitat animals.
The more people participating, the bigger the sample size will be so better conclusions can be drawn. I’m writting down every user who posts their list in order to avoid having repetitions. I intend to keep this updated as much as I can. Last update: 16th June, 2021
The spirit and basic rules of the thread will be similar to those of the first one. Which means:
- For the sake of keeping the same wishlist structure, I ask you to post your 20 essential habitat animals that you’d like to see in the game. Lists with anything above 20 animals will be discarded.
- Exhibit animals will be omitted from the main meta-wishlist. Exhibit animals include arthropods, amphibians, small reptiles (< iguanas), small fish and mouse-size mammals.
- Flying birds and bats usually housed in aviaries will be omitted from the main meta-wishlist. Flying aviary birds include birds of prey, parrots, Columbiformes (pigeons), Passeriformes (small birds), Charadriiformes (gulls) and so on. Mainly ground-dwelling or semi-aquatic birds (mainly Waterfowl, Galliformes, Ratites, Pelecaniformes, Penguins, etc.) will be added to the list.
- As a general rule of thumb, animal species is the preferred category for animal submissions. Subspecies from already in-game animals are also accepted. Subspecies from animals that are not in-game will automatically be allocated to the superior species category. Specific domestic animals breeds are also accepted.
- To simplify data collection, those answers that include several species in one slot (eg.: 1. Any species of sloth) will be automatically treated as a single animal and added to the most requested species inside that generic animal group (eg. in this case: Brown-Throated Three-Toed Sloth). This obviously leads to an underestimation of the total key requested animals.
1. Dama Gazelle
2. Arabian Sand Gazelle
3. Chinkara
4. Erlanger's Gazelle
5. Dorcas Gazelle
6. Mountain Gazelle
7. Rhim Gazelle
8. Speke's Gazelle
9. Goitered Gazelle
10. Tibetan Gazelle
11. Arabian Gazelle
12. Cuvier's Gazelle
13. Heuglin's Gazelle
14. Red-fronted Gazelle
15. Mongalla Gazelle
16. Red Gazelle
17. Grant's Gazelle
18. Soemmerring's Gazelle
19. Przewalski's Gazelle
20. Mongolian Gazelle
Here is the META-WISHLIST:
Rank Animal Votes 1Capybara 73 2Leopard (Amur: 29; African: 12; Persian :3; Indian: 2; indifferent: 11) 56Moose 56 4California Sea Lion 55 5Puma/Cougar/Mountain Lion 52 6Tasmanian Devil 47 7North American Beaver 41 8American Alligator 40Lar Gibbon 40 10Przewalski's Horse 39 11Maned Wolf 38 12Eurasian Lynx 36 13African Crested Porcupine 35 14Emu 34 15Platypus 33 16Wolverine 32 17Hamadryas Baboon 29 18Alpine Ibex 28 19Red Fox 26 20Fossa 25 21Asian Small-clawed Otter 24Common Wombat 24Walrus 24 24Red Deer 23 25Brown-Throated Three-Toed Sloth 22 26Musk Ox 21 27Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo 20Red River Hog 20 29European Badger 19Iberian Lynx 19Secretary Bird 19South American Coati 19 33Black Howler Monkey 18Dromedary 18 35Arctic Fox 17Takin 17 37Ocelot 16West Indian Manatee 16 39Short-Beaked Echidna 15 40Bennett’s Wallaby 14Caracal 14Gelada Baboon 14Honey Badger 14North American Black Bear 14Serval 14 46North Island Brown Kiwi 13Raccoon 13Scimitar-Horned Oryx 13Spectacled Bear 13Wild Boar 13 51Grey Crowned Crane 12 52Black-Tailed Prairie Dog 10Bush Dog 10Collared Peccary 10Fallow Deer 10Patagonian Mara 10Sloth Bear 10 58Addax 9Black Rhino 9Matschie's Tree Kangaroo 9Shoebill 9Striped Hyena 9 63Alligator Snapping Turtle 8Coyote 8De Brazza’s Monkey 8Elk 8Giant Armadillo 8Golden Lion Tamarin 8Markhor 8Pere David’s Deer 8 71Gaur 7Giant Eland 7Great White Pelican 7Guianan Squirrel Monkey 7Helmeted Guinea Fowl 7Japanese Serow 7Little Blue Penguin 7Nile Crocodile 7Nine-Banded Armadillo 7Saiga 7Siamang 7Sumatran Rhino 7Yellow-Footed Rock Wallaby 7 84Bighorn Sheep 6Chinese Giant Salamander 6Coquerel’s Sifaka 6Geoffroy’s Spider Monkey 6Greater Rhea 6Kakapo 6Striped Skunk 6 91Aardwolf 5African Civet 5Aye-Aye 5Black-Capped Squirrel Monkey 5Eurasian Beaver 5Fishing Cat 5Gerenuk 5Kinkajou 5Kirk's Dik-Dik 5Mantled Guereza 5Nubian Ibex 5Raccoon Dog/Tanuki 5Red Crowned Crane 5Reeve's Muntjac 5Scarlet Ibis 5Sea Otter 5 107Atlantic Puffin 4Australian Pelican 4Bobcat 4Dalmatian Pelican 4Greater Kudu 4Grevy's Zebra 4Linnaeus's two-toed sloth 4Mute Swan 4North American River Otter 4Red Wolf 4Rock Hyrax 4Somali Wild Donkey 4Southern Hairy Nosed Wombat 4Steller Sea Lion 4Watusi Cattle 4White-nosed Coati 4Wisent 4 124Black-Footed Ferret 3Abyssinian Ground Hornbill 3Azara's Agouti 3Black Backed Jackal 3Black Caiman 3Blue-footed Booby 3Bontebok 3Chamois 3Emperor Tamarin 3European Rabbit 3Mandarin Duck 3Mountain Goat 3New Zealand Fur Seal 3Nilgai 3North American Porcupine 3Onager 3Pallas's Cat 3Quokka 3Ring Tailed Mongoose 3Rockhopper Penguin (any) 3Sika Deer 3Southern Ground Hornbill 3Southern Tamandua 3White-tailed Deer 3Wild Turkey 3 149Black Crested Macaque 2Amazon River Dolphin 2Aoudad 2Arabian Oryx 2Brushtail Possum 2Cape Porcupine 2Elephant Seal 2Emperor Penguin 2Ethiopian Wolf 2European Pine Marten 2François' Langur 2Golden Pheasant 2Golden Snub Nosed Monkey 2Gray Fox 2Greater Mouse-Deer 2Green Sea Turtle 2Hanuman Gray Langur 2Hawaiian Goose 2Impala 2Leopard Seal 2Lowland Anoa 2Lowland Paca 2Marabou Stork 2Marine Iguana 2Mexican Wolf 2Northern White-Cheeked Gibbon 2Northern-helmeted Curassow 2Ocellated Turkey 2Olive Baboon 2Perentie 2Persian Fallow Deer 2Pygmy Three-Toed Sloth 2Red-Shanked Douc 2Ribbon Seal 2Ringtail 2Saddle Billed Stork 2Sandhill Crane 2Silky Anteater 2Tibetan Fox 2Victorian Crowned Pigeon 2Western Capercaillie 2White Stork 2Whooping Crane 2Wild Yak 2Yellow Throated Marten 2 194Asian Giant Softshell Turtle 1Hoffman's Two-Toed Sloth 1Takahē 1African Forest Buffalo 1African Forest Elephant 1Alpine Marmot 1American Flamingo 1American Mink 1Arabian Wolf 1Australian Sea Lion 1Baikal Seal 1Bat-Eared Fox 1Blackbuck 1Blue Duiker 1Blue Shark 1Blue Wildebeest 1Borneo Elephant 1Brazilian Porcupine 1Brown Fur Seal 1Brown Howler Monkey 1Bull Shark 1Cabot’s Tragopan 1Comb Duck 1Common Eland 1Common Pheasant 1Coypu 1Cuban Crocodile 1Eurasian Otter 1Eurasian Red Squirrel 1False Gharial 1Fisher 1Golden (Indian) Jackal 1Great Bustard 1Great Hornbill 1Greater Roadrunner 1Guanaco 1Hammerhead Shark 1Harbor Seal 1Hare (any) 1Hedgehog (any) 1Indian Crested Porcupine 1Indian Muntjac 1Jackrabbit (any) 1Jaguarundi 1Japanese Giant Salamander 1Lady Amherst's Pheasant 1Large Bamboo Rat 1Lion Tailed Macaque 1Loggerhead Sea Turtle 1Malayan Porcupine 1Mallard 1Marbled Polecat 1Mountain Gazelle 1Mule Deer 1Nigerian Dwarf Goat 1Northern Tamandua 1Northern White Rhino 1Numbat 1Ocean Sunfish 1Owston's Palm Civet 1Pangolin (any) 1Papua Monitor 1Poitou Donkey 1Quoll 1Red Forest Duiker 1Red Lechwe 1Roloway Monkey 1Rusty Spotted Cat 1Scottish Wildcat 1Siberian Musk Deer 1South African Springhare 1Sulcata Tortoise 1Sumatran Tiger 1Tapanuli Orangutan 1Tayra 1Tiger Shark 1Trumpeter Swan 1Verreaux's Sifaka 1Vervet Monkey 1Vicuña 1Vietnamese Pot-bellied Pig 1Virginia Opossum 1Walia Ibex 1Weasel (any) 1White-Naped Crane 1...279 Wolf's Mona Monkey 1
As you can see, a total of 281 animals have been considered 'essential' by at least one forum user.
TL;DR: Post your 20 essential habitat animals wishlist here. I will record each wishlist and add it to the Meta-list. Aviary and exhibit animals won’t be taken into consideration.
PS: Check darthquell's thread for Essential exhibit animals and Spiderhawk's thread for Essential aviary animals
If only people read the OP...There should be a list of terrarium animals for players to build a reptile or insect house.
For some of those animals, I agree that if we get one, I wouldn't ask for the other because they are very similar. The best example are beavers, baboons or pelicans. However, regarding other animals in that list, I think some of them are very different and I would want both, For example, red deer and fallow deer are different enough at a first glimpse. The same happens with arctic fox and red fox or with the grey crowned and red crowned cranes.I had some free time and decided to make a small list of similar animals (not based on taxonomy but purely on subjective appearance) and added up the votes for each. This is done on the assumption that if one of those species will appear in-game, the other similar animals would not receive so many votes (i.e. if Frontier adds a Great White Pelican, far less people will vote for Dalmatian or Australian pelicans). I only compiled species that do not have such a similar animal ingame (i.e. pelicans, foxes and sloths, but I omitted wolfs, crocodiles and bears as I assume people choose these because they want that specific species). I omitted animals that only got one vote. The results (based on the most recently updated list) are as follows:
Lynx: 59 votes (Eurasian, Iberian, Bobcat)
Deer (excl. moose): 57 votes (Red, Fallow, Elk, Pere David's, Sika, White-tailed, Persian Fallow)
Gibbons: 49 votes (Lar, Siamang, Northern White-cheeked)
Beavers: 46 votes (North-American, Eurasian)
Baboons: 45 votes (Hamadryas, Gelada, Olive)
Foxes: 45 votes (Red, Arctic, Gray)
Porcupines: 40 votes (African crested, North-American)
Ibex: 33 votes (Alpine, Nubian)
Tree kangaroos: 29 votes (Goodfellow's, Matschie's)
Sloths: 28 votes (Brown-throated, Linnaeus, Pygmy)
Coatis: 23 votes (South-American, White-nosed)
Wallabies: 21 votes (Bennett's, Yellow-footed)
Cranes: 21 votes (Grey crowned, Red crowned, Sandhill, Whooping)
Pelicans: 15 votes (Great White, Dalmatian, Australian)
Armadillos: 15 votes (Giant, Nine-banded)
Not sure if this is useful information, but I feel like it adds a bit of nice context to the original list. Also let me know if I should add any other category.
That is why it is tricky to squeeze several species under one. For sure it works sometimes, but in the end it is too much of a personal opinion where to draw the line. I would never but the Gelada in the same boat as the baboons as an example, but are quite okay with the lynxes. So I think the way @random goat did it makes sense.For some of those animals, I agree that if we get one, I wouldn't ask for the other because they are very similar. The best example are beavers, baboons or pelicans. However, regarding other animals in that list, I think some of them are very different and I would want both, For example, red deer and fallow deer are different enough at a first glimpse. The same happens with arctic fox and red fox or with the grey crowned and red crowned cranes.
Exactly. I would prefer the Iberian lynx, I'd take the Eurasian, but I wouldn't be happy with the bobcat or Canadian lynx. Likewise the only baboon I really want is the Hamadryas, and the gelada isn't actually a baboon. You also can't combine the porcupines because there's a clear divide between the New World tree porcupines and the Old World ground porcupines. Likewise all the cranes are completely different!That is why it is tricky to squeeze several species under one. For sure it works sometimes, but in the end it is too much of a personal opinion where to draw the line. I would never but the Gelada in the same boat as the baboons as an example, but are quite okay with the lynxes. So I think the way @random goat did it makes sense.
But I do see the logic @TheYeti went with. Pretty sure the last Wishlist featured several votes for Humboldt penguin, but now there is none. Probably because the African penguin roughly satisfied the need for a warmer climate penguin.
I believe that's mainly because of the recently released packs. For instance right now the list is inclined towards NA, but when we get a NA pack, the remaining NA animals will drop in popularity in the next meta list thread, purely because people will think the game won't add further NA animals. On the other hand, Asian, African, Oceanian and South American animals will be in demand again. This is just a recurring trend. Also explains why the difference between the African and Amur leopards has increased significantly, since the African Pack didn't add a leopard, people think a Eurasian pack is the only chance we'll get a true leopard.It’s really interesting how this current list differs from the last one. Some species are much more popular now that they were the last time and I really like some of those new trends.
Although I really can’t understand how my beloved Red River hog is so low on the list this time. Maybe after receiving babirusa people somehow forgot about it, I don’t know. So please vote more for those lovely foxy colored hogs that are always clean
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Well, the Amur was always ahead of the African leopard even prior to the Africa Pack, but the gap has widened significantly.I believe that's mainly because of the recently released packs. For instance right now the list is inclined towards NA, but when we get a NA pack, the remaining NA animals will drop in popularity in the next meta list thread, purely because people will think the game won't add further NA animals. On the other hand, Asian, African, Oceanian and South American animals will be in demand again. This is just a recurring trend. Also explains why the difference between the African and Amur leopards has increased significantly, since the African Pack didn't add a leopard, people think a Eurasian pack is the only chance we'll get a true leopard.
And then there's the curious Maned Wolf, which was very high on the last list (it got to 8th place I believe?), but is so far tracking much lower than I thought it would be...at 11. Not an awful place to be but am surprised it's not higher. I guess it was on a lot of people's top 30 list but they didn't like it enough to include it in a pared down top 20 list. There's likely other examples, that's just the main one that comes to mind.It’s really interesting how this current list differs from the last one. Some species are much more popular now that they were the last time and I really like some of those new trends.
Although I really can’t understand how my beloved Red River hog is so low on the list this time. Maybe after receiving babirusa people somehow forgot about it, I don’t know. So please vote more for those lovely foxy colored hogs that are always clean
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Lesssgo baby!
1. California Sea Lion
2. West Indian Manatee
3. White-Cheeked Gibbon / Siamang, interchangable
4. Harbor Porpoise
5. Musk Ox
6. Bottlenose Dolphin
7. Black Swan
8. Mute Swan
9. Golden Pheasant
10. Miniature Donkey
11. Amur / Zoo-Mix Leopard
12. Mallard Duck
13. Muscovy Duck
14. Matschie's Tree Kangaroo
15. Coquerel's Sifaka
16. Moose
17. African Crowned Crane
18. Coatimundi
19. Hamadrayas / Olive Baboon
20.Dodo :^)
1. Moose
2. Leatherback turtle
3. American Alligator
4. Raccoon
5. Californian Sea Lion
6. Alligator Snapping Turtle
7. Nile crocodile
8. Cougar
9. Beaver
10. Manta rays
11. Leopard
12. Shoebill Stork
13. Squirrel monkey
14. Pelican
15. Tiger shark
16. Andean flamingo
17. Sloth
18. Gray mouse lemur
19. platypus
20. Camel
1- Hamadryas Baboon
2- Gelada
3- Red River Hog
4- Wisayan Warty Pig
5- Emu
6- Kiwi
7- Tasmanian Devil
8- African Leopard
9- Dromedary Camel
10- Linneanus's Two Toed Sloth
11- Common Wombat
12- Ringtail Possum
13- Brushtail Possum
14- Wallaby, any
15- Quokka
16- Fossa
17- Andean Spectacled Bear
18- North American Black Bear
19- Sloth Bear
20- Sumatran Rhino
Capybara
Sloth
Golden lion/emperor tamarin
Howler Monkey
Giant Armadillo
Tasmanian Devil
Platypus
Echidna
Gibbon
Asian small-clawed otter
Amur Leapord
Przewalski's Wild Horse
Arctic Fox
Walrus
Puffin
Caracal
African Crested Porcupine
Olive Baboon
Fossa
Red River Hog
Okay I'm very glad I found this thing because I have a list of lik 60 animals I want to see added. I ranked these on my personal opinion, the amount of animals already in their continent, their conservation status and their originality (How many similar animals their are to this one and how much interesting new enrichment items it could bring)
I have removed all aviary and fully-marine animals from my top 20:
1. Kakapo
2. Southern Rockhopper Penguin
3. Tasmanian Devil
4. Platypus
5. Eurasian Lynx
6. North American Beaver
7. Red Fox
8. Red Squirrel
9. Barbary macaque
10. Corsac Fox
11. Eurasian Badger
12. Golden Jackal
13. Italian/Iberian Gray wolf
14. Lar Gibbon
15. Raccoon
16. Amur Leopard
17. Brown-throated Sloth
18. Californian Sea Lion
19. Nine-banded Armadillo
20. Wild Boar
That's it! Most of these are European because I need more European animals![]()
Happy to participate in this again
1. Dassie (Rock hyrax)
2. Brown (Cape) Fur Seal
3. Racoon
4. Klipspringer
5. Blue duiker
6. Common eland
7. Nubian ibex
8. Barbary sheep (Aoudad)
9. Cape porcupine
10. Hamadryas baboon
11. Vervet monkey
12. Gibbon
13. Leopard Tortoise
14. Helmeted guineafowl
15. Great white pelican
16. Southern ground hornbill
17. Marabou stork
18. Grey crowned crane
19. Mallard
20. Mute swan
1. Collared Peccary
2. Asian Small-clawed otter
3. Fallow Deer
4. Coyote
5. Gelada Baboon
6. Black Bear
7. Greater Kudu
8. Capybara
9. Coati
10. Bighorn Sheep
11. Red River Hog
12. Walrus
13. California Sea Lion
14. African Crested Porcupine
15. Iberian Lynx
16. American Alligator
17. Przewalski's Horse
18. Red Fox
19. Tasmanian Devil
20. Ocelot
All added and list updated!1. Raccoon
2. Porcupine
3. Nine-banded Armadillo
4. Matschies Tree Kangaroo
5. Moose
6. Eurasian Lynx
7. Common Wombat
8. Cougar
9. Capybara
10. Skunk
11. American Beaver
12. European Otter
13. Californian Sea Lion
14. Walrus
15. Tasmanian Devil
16. Platypus
17. Kiwi
18. Sloth
19. Musk Ox
20. Tamandua