Found this:
New Planet Tech is KILLER of Exploration (all terrain is tiling/repeating/not procedural/random)
- Thread starter BlackMaze
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Initially I thought the repetitive "heat" maps were just a problem with the Analysis filter. But you can clearly see the repeating topography even without the Analysis filter.Found this:
What a letdown and massive downgrade from Horizons variety.
To some extent - it was. But, yeah, much better hidden
Perhaps heat map tiling and terrain tiling might be intricately linked?
Sort of. The new engine makes repetition extremely visible. Like the big crater you can see on nearly every single landable rocky planet. It used to be in horizon, but was less obvious.
But some of it is new.
Well to be fair, a crater by nature of how it is formed won't really have much variety. But craters are not the specific thing we are criticizing.
I have a suspicion that bio tiling and terrain tiling are linked together, and interestingly enough, if you blend both screenshots together and use GIMP's HSV hue layer mode, it will highlight repetitive terrain by leaving it out from the bluish tint.
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I suggest you read the first few pages of this thread. Plenty of links to FDev's descriptions of the difference between Horizons and Odyssey terrain. In short, Dr. Ross said Horizons terrain is created entirely mathematically. Odyssey uses pre-fabricated terrain shapes - the so-called "tiles" in this thread. Those FDev descriptions of terrain may not have included craters, which are possibly/probably reused in both Horizons and Odyssey.
What a sad downgrade Odyssey planet tech is!Found this:
It is, but lack of of 'heatmaps' makes harder to spot tiling artifacts.
If you get closer to the surface and use night vision though, you can find several tiles in Horizons as well.
The following image is taken from the official issue tracker where is used to compare degraded Odissey's textures to Horizons' ones.
Look at the image at the top right:
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Isn't that just looking at the terrain through the tiled holes in the blue heatmap tint?I have a suspicion that bio tiling and terrain tiling are linked together, and interestingly enough, if you blend both screenshots together and use GIMP's HSV hue layer mode, it will highlight repetitive terrain by leaving it out from the bluish tint.
This isn't true in real life. Look at the moon.
Each crater is unique. There are ramparts, central peaks, flooded floors, craters in craters, rills, ejecta, different depths, widths etc...
If you go further afield in just our solar system the variety of terrain is spectacular, no reason to assume this wouldn't be the case in other stars systems.
Enceladus
Callisto
Pluto
Variety in Odyssey pales into insignificance even before the LOD/pop issues.
Cheers,
Drew.
Slightly, yes, but compare it to the untinted variant. You will see similarities where the heatmap gaps are.
If you want RL, build yourself a spaceship and head on out there.
Better still, for the rest of our sakes... do it better yourself than FDev. I dare you to start a kickstarter on that basis! Go for it!
Better still, for the rest of our sakes... do it better yourself than FDev. I dare you to start a kickstarter on that basis! Go for it!
So it seems like the tiling issue was similar in Horizons, but less visible than in Odyssey?
Found this:
Ah, you found the planet of sheep.
Here's a planet of Loch Ness Monsters to go with it.
And remember folks, if this isn't fixed in Thursdays final patch update, its here to stay since focus switches to getting this thing working on the consoles (and we all know how that's going to pan out).
From the "roadmap"
i want exploration back 
Its a shame someone hasn't licensed Space Engine to build a game on. That nailed planetary surfaces years ago.
Frontiers planet tech even seems years behind an indy game like Infinity Battlescape - a game made by a handful of devs with an initial kickstarter fund of $350,000, years ago.