New Regions – Why not use the ones already established by the exploration community?

Spaceman Si

Spaceman Si
This has already been mentioned a couple of times, but I think the two systems could co-exist*

Doing a fair bit of walking / climbing, I am used to reading OS maps where the grid refs and general areas are really really dry but are also a precise definition of where something is that no one can argue with and is a common reference that is not going to be misunderstood or misinterpretted.

Eg NG45002080 is not exactly memorable, but if you also know that this on Sgurr Alaisdair in the Black Cuillin, then you have both a precise definiton and a more humanly tangible frame of reference for a more "fuzzy" general locale, especially if you know that NG grid area refers (mostly) to the Isle of Skye as a while.

The idea of having a galmap naming project an overlay on top of the dry 42 area sector map is a very good one, I think!

* Of course, had FDev actually provided a focussed-feedback forum for exploration as intended, rather than deciding everything internally, they might have been able to come up with a better melded answer to this, and avoided some other grief...
 

Batsu

B
/signed

I like option 3 the best. That way, if you don't like the GMP names, you don't ever have to see them. But if you need them or want to use them instead, they're right there.

Also, I like that it's the most minimal effort proposal of the three. :D
 

Reefskye

R
I do support this but also not going to sign, Numbers make it much simpler for everyone, no matter what language you speak and also for FD's time. i feel finding Region 10 is easier than using its name. Numbers are shorter, easier to understand and universal.
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
Hey cmdr! I was going to respond in the thread you put in the Lore forums as well as this one, but may as well put it all into this one.

Corbin Moran said:
Lore is many things - sometimes it is just the names and references we share with each other in the community...

Since I assume you care about such tings as continuity in community lore and shared narratives, please join this thread and sign the proposal if you agree :)

New Regions – Why not use the ones already established by the exploration community?
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If I may, it makes a lot of sense to me to have both. It introduces having what’s essentially an official and beaurocratic nomenclature on one hand and an unofficial ‘space bar’ nomenclature, which I think introduces more depth and gameplay opportunities.

For example:

“Ever heard of the Abyssal Plains, cmdr? It’s not on the official map, but if you ask around someone will have heard of it. You won’t hear about it through the official Pilots Federation channels, but there’s rumours of something odd happening out there. I don’t know much more, but I know you’re into this kind of stuff, so thought you might be interested.”

That type of thing...

So out of what’s there so far I favour Ozric’s suggestion.

I’d like to add an extra bit to Oz’s suggestion for consideration though - have new players start out with just the official map, and make the unofficial one something they become aware of as they become more involved with things - that way you add a certain mystique to it and have another sense of progress and players growing into the real pilot community as they progress.

It would be harder to do, but I think it would offer a lot more.

(Just for clarity, for players that are heavily involved with the GMP version already and know it well, I’d say it should go straight to Oz’s on/off version. My suggestion’s more about how it can be adapted to add more for new players and existing players who either don’t know of, or aren’t really familiar with the GMP version.)
 

Corbin Moran

Corbin Moran
Reefskye said:
I do support this but also not going to sign, Numbers make it much simpler for everyone, no matter what language you speak and also for FD's time. i feel finding Region 10 is easier than using its name. Numbers are shorter, easier to understand and universal.
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Please note that proposal 3 in the OP would retain the numbered FD regions and simply add the GMP region names as an optional overlay.
 

Corbin Moran

Corbin Moran
Thatchinho said:
Hey cmdr! I was going to respond in the thread you put in the Lore forums as well as this one, but may as well put it all into this one.

If I may, it makes a lot of sense to me to have both. It introduces having what’s essentially an official and beaurocratic nomenclature on one hand and an unofficial ‘space bar’ nomenclature, which I think introduces more depth and gameplay opportunities.

For example:

“Ever heard of the Abyssal Plains, cmdr? It’s not on the official map, but if you ask around someone will have heard of it. You won’t hear about it through the official Pilots Federation channels, but there’s rumours of something odd happening out there. I don’t know much more, but I know you’re into this kind of stuff, so thought you might be interested.”

That type of thing...

So out of what’s there so far I favour Ozric’s suggestion.

I’d like to add an extra bit to Oz’s suggestion for consideration though - have new players start out with just the official map, and make the unofficial one something they become aware of as they become more involved with things - that way you add a certain mystique to it and have another sense of progress and players growing into the real pilot community as they progress.

It would be harder to do, but I think it would offer a lot more.

(Just for clarity, for players that are heavily involved with the GMP version already and know it well, I’d say it should go straight to Oz’s on/off version. My suggestion’s more about how it can be adapted to add more for new players and existing players who either don’t know of, or aren’t really familiar with the GMP version.)
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It sounds like a great way to add immersion and narrative, but also like something that would be much more demanding to implement compared to a "static" map layer. I love the thought though...
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
Corbin Moran said:
It sounds like a great way to add immersion and narrative, but also like something that would be much more demanding to implement compared to a "static" map layer. I love the thought though...
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Yeah, that would be the problem. Although if FD also like the idea, it’s not necessarily something that would have to be done for 3.3 launch and rather it could be something that’s done/comes subsequently so it doesn’t impact on the delivery of 3.3. That would depend on whether FD felt it was sufficiently worth doing for them to slot it into the development pipeline ahead of things they’ll already have planned.
 

Tazin

Tazin
New Regions – Why not use the ones already established by the exploration community?
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Absolutely this. Signed.

With all the respect for the developers and their work on such a magnificent game, they should consider that without community developed apps, websites, and community gathered data, the game would be so cumbersome to play, that I personally would just stop. On top of that, simply agreeing on naming conventions is easy enough for everyone to do. Please implement this.
 

kenru

kenru
/signed

Keeping community based lore that has been made in the past with the new on/off overlay in my opinion will be great for new lore formats to come out in the future. It also allows players to pick which lore or aspect they like more without to much of a fuss.

example: "hey CMDR have you herd of Beagle Point? It is fairly well known for exploration parties (community based exploration lore), so i am surprised if you haven't. You should check it out some time, its in sector 53 (new lore based off of map overlay)."

I am sure that to start off with it will be a bit confusing but the longer it is there the more and more it will be integrated into stuff like this making (in some cases) it much easier to find based off sectors as they can fast reference the spot for others to find, as some places have similar names.
 

Captain Willard

Captain Willard
WOW So many want their third person work that didn't develop the game put into the skies. ZZZZZZZZZ
Hope you get what you want. One less crying thread.
 
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