No Single Player Offline Mode then? [Part 2]

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Ok so a DOH moment here, why not provide an archive of the server on release so everyone can play in an offline enviroment then?!
They cannot do that. That would be a hackers wet dream...

Linux is open source and it's one of the most secure operating systems out there.

In fact it's security through obscurity that's a hacker's wet dream.

As for Frontier's precious "secrets of the galaxy", just use a different seed for the private servers, problem solved.
 
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No i mean offline mode!

Another angle, if you have a life outside of ED as 100% of us do, an evolving world will feel unrealistic to most of us as when ever you come to play the game alot would have changed! Especially if your only able to play the game once or twice a week (if im lucky).

Exactly what online only evolving Galaxy means is tough luck if you can’t play often or regularly the galaxy will seem to arbitrarily shift around you with non-sensical speed between sessions.

It’s become a game for guys in their early 20’s with no kids and endless hours to kill the rest of us have been dropped by the wayside.
 

Vlodec

Banned
You could complain all you wanted. Doesn't change the fact that you'd really have no legal right to since you didn't enter into any contract to purchase a product. You paid for access into an alpha/beta program - irrespective of how that turned out.

That's not really an answer though, now is it? What I'm trying to establish is this.........

If FD pulled the online game for any reason at all, is it your position that, having paid for the alpha/beta test and that only - in your opinion - backers would have no good reason to complain?
 
So good luck with the refunds!
Maybe come back in a month when all your tickets have been handled?

Frontier made a design decision and there will most likely be no offline mode in the foreseeable future.
They can make elite how they want according to their vision. If the online solo mode fits that vision better then that it is the way it will be.

I dont get all the rage.
The doomsayers who think the servers will up and leave in 2 months time, whats that all about.
 
Ditto, but I'm not angry, but I'll be at the premier, I hope that there is no silliness at the event.

I wonder if the Premiere will have anti-riot and private armed security ;)
(I will be in Camden at a massive party night on Friday... sat I will site and home playing... when I wake up)
 
David mentioned that the servers could be archived and the archive released if we closed the servers for whatever reason.
To believe that requires trusting Frontier. I think we can agree that after this "offline mode" issue some customers might not be inclined to trust the company anymore. After all offline mode was promised too: you cannot blame people now imagining Frontier stating a few years in the future that they "at the time believed we could also offer" server archival.
 

Michael Brookes

Game Director
Since you're here Michael and it seems pertinent to alot of people wondering why the refund policy isn't more lax in their favour; was there a high percentage of users with large amounts of gametime already racked up that applied for refunds?

Because we already had a refund policy in place which is being applied. As standard for digital downloads if you've already accessed the download then no refund applies.

Michael
 
I'm quite sure more specific details on that would be very welcome by most of us.


I refer you back to my previous comment:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=60916&page=14&p=1036937#post1036937

and your response

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=60916&page=15&p=1036973&viewfull=1#post1036973

Please do not keep inferring that you speak for others. Incidentally, your grasp of written English for a third language (as you have previously stated) is quite exceptional.
 
Since you seem to enjoy posting here I think you should do the moderator's jobs for them and ban yourself. Goodbye old chap.

I asked them a question, shame you feel I should be banned for it. But then again, it doesn't surprise me given your attitude here.

Shok.
 
I can surmise you don't want you core of what makes your product work to be handed on a silver platter to hackers and competitors.

Yes an archive that raw would be like handing it all over, but the fact is that the game can run offline with a few tweaks, so why are they dropping the offline mode? It makes no sense!

Truth of the matter is time is running out so they have dropped offline mode in favour of finishing the online mode. We all know how many bugs there have been and how beta has been a last minute rush not actually a proper beta run. look at beta 3.9, we have 2 days to beta test it? hmm

ED could do with a few more months of proper beta development in which they could also include offline mode, sure its a delay but i think this time next year ED will be played by many more people and happier!
 
That's not really an answer though, now is it? What I'm trying to establish is this.........

If FD pulled the online game for any reason at all, is it your position that, having paid for the alpha/beta test and that only - in your opinion - backers would have no good reason to complain?

Would they then be offering an offline version of the game?

If so then I'd still have Elite to play right..
 
That's not really an answer though, now is it? What I'm trying to establish is this.........

If FD pulled the online game for any reason at all, is it your position that, having paid for the alpha/beta test and that only - in your opinion - backers would have no good reason to complain?

No they wouldn't. They bought access to the test program. They had that. By it's very nature, an alpha/beta test program never has guarantees.
 
As David as mentioned it wasn't dropped purely for technical reasons. There is little that is impossible, but impractical is a different issues as is not achieving the core pillars of the game.

Michael

Thank you as well for taking the time Mr. Brookes.

And what comes out like waterdrops in single statements here and intervies there, could and imho should have been made clear from the beginning.
An announcement, even in the newsletter, explaining all the why's would have done the job.
Not in dubious statements, so well formulated that they can mean all and nothing.

i.e. The limited timeframe until the release, a date we had to set due to different factors, as many of you could possible understand, like the Christmas business, our financial reports as a company, obligations to our shareholders, just to name a few, also influenced the decision.

Truly extensive information would silence so many conspiracy theories.
Your vague statements provoke them.
I.e.
"How many ships will there at release?
"Currently we have 16 ships ready to be flown. We plan to add another 5 in the next weeks that undergoe last tests and polish. We will add more lateron but we don't exactly know yet when they will be released. Bear with us!"


No guessing, no conspiracies. But yes it would mean pants down, what could be hard as a company i imagine since it would reveal inner processes and external obligations sometimes.
But i believe that is what some people want to hear and know.
Though some guessing is fun, like the sneakpeaks in every newsletter, sometimes there needs to be facts.

edit: it sometimes gives the impression that a lot of work isn'tdone and you just are afraid to tell everyone. But have faith in your community that they will understand it, if there are reasons for it.

This should be in no way understood as bashing, just a try to better the communication efforts between the devs and the communication.
And, since that is always a point, i don't speak for anyone but myself ;)
Let me add a thankyou for the work done at last, I'm surely will have a ton of fun.

Regards
 
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The doomsayers who think the servers will up and leave in 2 months time, whats that all about.

Experience with previous MMOs?

Just because a small percentage of them haven't folded yet it doesn't mean we can feel confident this one won't. (Just google "MMO graveyard", there are too many results to post them all, sadly.)
 
Because we already had a refund policy in place which is being applied. As standard for digital downloads if you've already accessed the download then no refund applies.

Michael
I understand that - but with the furore caused, do you feel there were many people trying to take advantage of the fuss by falsely claiming that they were more ill-affected than their gameplay stats would suggest?
 
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