I would say there's a good analogy to be drawn to it. They've made a clear obligation and made a sales pitch to a lot of interested parties based on claims A, B, C and D (game modes). One month before the game goes live, claim A goes out of the window, leaving Claim B C and D fully intact, so whilst the majority of the game is there, a significant mode -has- been stripped, which causes a lot of people to get annoyed. When people who were invested on the basis of claim A want their money back, they're told they can't get it. That's at the least a massive failure of communication and incompetence of the highest order, and at worst highly shady.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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I would say there's a good analogy to be drawn to it. They've made a clear obligation and made a sales pitch to a lot of interested parties based on claims A, B, C and D (game modes). One month before the game goes live, claim A goes out of the window, leaving Claim B C and D fully intact, so whilst the majority of the game is there, a significant mode -has- been stripped, which causes a lot of people to get annoyed. When people who were invested on the basis of claim A want their money back, they're told they can't get it. That's at the least a massive failure of communication and incompetence of the highest order, and at worst highly shady.
Because you're taking a quote from one person and then taking another from another person and expect some kind of continuity.
Have you not noticed there's thousands of people on these forums in these topics?
Perhaps you ought to read the poster in question's recent posts before you give examples like that.
Sir Render
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In that case I like your name,
Your mother was very insightful at your baptism.
At first I doubted the priest understood, but I suspect under those robes is a skin tight rubber suit
Oh and to get back on post I am probably not allowed to say what I think about the people on this thread, so I will avoid the swear police by saying most of them are boring repetitive idiots
Best of British Mr Slapper
YOu mean an offline version that they said they wouldnt do? ok man, rewind...
I just received an answer from the support concerning my refund request... and it's apparently the exact same standard response everybody else has received... (for info I backed the game but never played the beta nor downloaded anything)
If they have to change to scope of the game because you discover that you are not able, technically or financially, to keep your promises; fine it can happen and I can understand that but in that case the least you can do is take their responsibility and refund those who trusted them and backed the game because they believed the promise of the game having a fully working off-line mode.
If they have to change to scope of the game because you discover that you are not able, technically or financially, to keep your promises; fine it can happen and I can understand that but in that case the least you can do is take their responsibility and refund those who trusted them and backed the game because they believed the promise of the game having a fully working off-line mode.
So no one has downloaded the game they bought yet according to your logic.
I know you would say that - in fact you already have!
Thankfully both theft and fraud have clear definitions about intent and nothing we've seen so far shows any evidence of intent.
Still - no harm in popping into your local cop shop/interpol for a 2nd opinion..
Oh, i notice a lot of things.
More than you might think
I don't think anything.
Stop winking your eye at me.
It's making me uncomfortable
It very much is very sound logic; Once bitten, twice shy.
1) I'll never KS again because I helped Wastelands 2 come to be. I'm one of the people directly responsible for that .
2) I thought I had researched this purchase well enough to be confident in doing so. (Including reading a lot of the forum before deciding on buying.) I've learned to not trust anything that is being said by studios ever again and will from now one only buy stuff that's fully released, and I will even do more research now.
Games or no, it's still a matter of me spending money. And even though I always make sure that the money is spend on my hobby is money I don't need elsewhere; I still don't enjoy misspending it. It's good to learn from mistakes, it makes for wise people.
I'm expecting with anticipation when you will "hit them with a chargeback and leave them to clean up the mess", I'm sure the fallout will be epic and of scale never seen before. They must be really soiling their pants now.
Meanwhile, 4 days left to Gamma - it's gonna be good!
The law doesn't discriminate between "things in development" and released games. The laws talks about "digital content".
Of course if the description of said digital content is "incomplete, has missing features, your mileage may vary, could make your PC implode..."
His logic is like his facts. He says he keeps hitting me with them, but frankly all I feel is the faint whoosh of him missing the point.
(Yes, I'm feeling mean)
That's right. They've downloaded a Beta test of parts of the game FD wanted testing. The game is released on the 16th of December.
I don't think anything.
Stop winking your eye at me.
It's making me uncomfortable
sorry, not my intent.
and to make it more clear: i really followed the whole thread.
just can't understand the whole bashing in here.
New elite offline (elite 5 for example) after elite dangerous 4 online?
The annoucement of only online elite is a bad news.
Sadly I think there is no possibility to bring back offline version.
My question is: if elite dangerous is online, I hope that frontier will make a new elite that will be single and offline. Is it possible and is it likely?
Alll people and elite fan doesn't like online game and online elite for many reasons: erratic internet connexion without adsl or enven with adsl (I have adsl and lots of deconnexion because I live ruraly), hate online game, want to play single and when i want etc....
If frontier think elite must be only online, it's a big mistake. Elite can have an online life and an single offline life even it's not with the same game.
The annoucement of only online elite is a bad news.
Sadly I think there is no possibility to bring back offline version.
My question is: if elite dangerous is online, I hope that frontier will make a new elite that will be single and offline. Is it possible and is it likely?
Alll people and elite fan doesn't like online game and online elite for many reasons: erratic internet connexion without adsl or enven with adsl (I have adsl and lots of deconnexion because I live ruraly), hate online game, want to play single and when i want etc....
If frontier think elite must be only online, it's a big mistake. Elite can have an online life and an single offline life even it's not with the same game.
Almighty Bob
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I have no idea what best of British is but, thanks. Staying on thread before leaving this one forever I agree 150,000 people and only these few very vocal unhappy ones. I looked through your posts, did you start the entire refund thing? Even if in context you did not mean it?
If this is a cast iron guarantee from Frontier that I can still play Elite Dangerous if they take the servers down then I would be satisfied with it.
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