Exactly, it just needs to be DRM free, which it isnt.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Exactly, it just needs to be DRM free, which it isnt.
Fine. Then quite complaining in this thread and take it up with kickstarter.
Elite: Dangerous Kickstarter said:
Was this what you pledged to?
End of the day, Kickstarters aren't obliged to deliver everything they originally plan to. This grey area is the risk you take when you stump up money for something that doesn't yet exist.
This thread was even not going to happen if FDs decided to sit down communicate with their backers and see if compromises can be made instead of cutting game mode prior to release and then pretending nothing is happening. Instead they have thrown the bone to community in the form of "if we continue to work on offline, online will suffer". And by thatz they just started the war within community. I really hope they didnt do that on purpose. But it woul'd be nice that they try to settle this matter somehow. I'm sick of accusations that we want to ruin the game.
yes they are, read the terms
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almost, I was stupid enough to go for the collectors edition
ED is not the only bad example here. Its Kickstarter that gives developers TO MUCH FREEDOM.
Yeah it does, it says DRM free which could be offline or without identification.
We don't have to assume anything. Considering that Braben and Brookes have directly contradicted each other over when this decision was made, your view would be a charitable one in the extreme. People have said it before but I'll say it again: the code didn't just fall into FD's lap. If they'd truly wanted to put an offline mode in, the game and engine should have been designed to allow that from the start.
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Yup, if they won't help at all with this, they are dead to me,too. Will warn everyone everytime some new project makes the rounds.
Well then you would be wrong.
The reason for doing so is that if fans of the game, or a games museum wanted to set up a server to run the game, they would have the option to do so. It won't be a simple option, but it would be simpler than reverse engineering the game. And you can't reverse engineer an online game with no running servers
Actually that isn't true; if you have client server architecture nothing stops you from running the client and the server on the same device other than available memory/cpu/disk.
Numerous games before have had client server architectures but still allowed clients to connect to server instances they themselves host.
I’ve also worked with enterprise applications in the past that allow you to run client and server on the same tin, it’s entirely feasible.
What are the hardware requirements to run an Elite Dangerous server with only one client connected? It’s a procedurally generated universe so no reason they should be hudge.
Listen...If FD had made an announcement on the board saying "We apologise but we have to drop online mode " with good full explanations then this would have gone a lot smoother....I don't think its the fact it was dropped that's the biggest issue here..
Most are offended by the way it was done...I agree they should have told us earlier they were struggling and this would have been all over by now.....Im no genius but even I could have handled it better..
Worse, EA never pretended to sell a DRM free game.
As has been said before, it's a "calculation" thing not a "size" thing. Think dynamic galaxy and extrapolate from there.
Then it shall not be made by this company, they have shown their true colors now - and i don't think they ever will be able to make a successful kickstarter in the future.
Maybe he who have made Space Engine can 'hook us up' ;p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mootV7Iqa34
Not really the same,
EA, forced a single player game to be Online because they wanted to sell us microtransactions.
Frontier decided that offline mode of Elite Dangerous Online would not be possible or be at the high standard they want in a dynamic galaxy.
But anyway, good luck with your refund. Bye!
I think DRM is a very worthy cause.
(http://www.drm.org/)
But then, this is not the DRM thread, this is the No Offline Mode thread.
Robert. I'm not going to be bothered to find the quotes, but both David and Michael have, on several occasions, confirmed that off-line was in. Do a quick search. And this was repeatedly confirmed to new buyers/backers by FD right up until 5 days ago.
Not all galaxy needs to be calculated at once (just like in Frontier). Especially considering that there are no thousands of other players in offline mode that are constantly feeding new variables for calculation. Their explanation on the whole issue is fishy at least!
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