No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Wasn't that for my reference to "The Producers"?
Because I'd consider that quite a stretch, and I don't recall any other Godwin's law call (although I might have very well missed it)...
And if that happens, they must refund, or fnd an alternative way to satisfy the pledge reward, like our own servers.
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If anyone can log in without authentication, then you are correct. But this is clearly not the case with Elite.
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.... except for the fact that the offline mode was not mentioned on the KS front page until after the "Physical DRM-free boxed set" and DRM FAQ answer had been made, therefore they did not necessarily apply to offline at all.
Nope, that is a non sequitur.
They haven't compromised the PLEDGE REWARDS......
Yes some of the stuff they said in the FAQ or design goals may not have happened, but as Pyelot quoted, its not against Kickstarter rules if you aren't able to fully produce everything you wanted to.
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Sell your copy on ebay and buy some other game then, I guess.
I think you are missing the point, I'll assume out of genuine misunderstanding rather than malice.
It was not clear things would change with ED, specifically it was pitched as having an offline mode which has just been pulled. If you want something closer replace the choc bar in the skit with a choc bar, bag of crisps and can of fizzy drink, have the shopkeeper take payment for all 3 and then supply everything except the bar and offer no refund.
The cat bit was hyperbole in response to your (and others) assertion that by asking for what we've been promised we are in some way trying to remove something from the rest of you, which we aren't. It was a means of setting up the final cat purge part - I am sorry you were unable to mentally make that link but you took the risk when you started reading the post, so no refunds on the mockery for you.
Most of us aren't badmouthing the developers, and the things we are saying that are detrimental, such as pointing out the degree of dishonesty, secrecy and lack of empathy can hardly be counted as bad mouthing. I am not trying to get FD to re-introduce offline play, that ship has sailed and to be honest, even if they tried to do a U-turn I would not believe them.
By Game theory do you mean "promising features in a game but then removing them after you've trousered the wonga"? generally in adversarial games one side wins, the clue is kind of in the question. However what you want is co-operative games where both sides can win, which is a different kettle of fish. Which are themselves unrelated to cats, except as a source of protein.
However, you have now wasted too much of my time, I get it that you want online play and are happy with that, I get it you aren't bothered by the loss of offline play as you don't want that, but I just don't get why it rankles you so much that some of us aren't getting what we paid for to the point that you have wound yourself to near incoherence with rage.
OK, lets simplify this.
Am I right in thinking the argument is that Frontier by having a Kickstarter reward for a DRM free game is obligated to release a standalone version?
If that is the case then you are wrong, DRM has a specific definition, and a game which you need an account to play which stores your account information remotely doesn't fit that definition.
Am I right in thinking the argument is that Frontier by having a Kickstarter reward for a DRM free game is obligated to release a standalone version?
If that is the case then you are wrong, DRM has a specific definition, and a game which you need an account to play which stores your account information remotely doesn't fit that definition.
Not necessarily. AI-driven can stop when you stop the game (meaning that your otherwise dynamic galaxy would be exactly the same when you come back from vacation).
No. Sell it to a person why actually wants to play Elite in a living and changing galaxy. Shees. Do you always assume the worst?
Only the Solo Instance, that didn't affect the online Universe at all.Stop time. Yeah... good luck with that...
And a clear violation of the Terms and Conditions, you're not seriously advocating that are you now?
I didn't check, since I have no interest in doing so. Maybe the mods will purge this suggestion then, but what would actually stop you from doing it? Nobody is hurt either, as long as the transaction is honest.
They did compromise them, they wont deliver DRM free editions. And they ARE able, that is my point. They could release server software, but they dont want to.
Can I just speak for the majority of players who have kept silent on this matter because frankly its getting out of hand now.
Offline is a no-no. Sorry. Move on if you feel aggrieved.
Offline is a no-no. Sorry. Move on if you feel aggrieved.
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Online-Solo is still the same universe with the same dynamic changes. Just you don't get put into the same space pockets as other players.
Which is a good thing really. I really can't see the point of a Galaxy Simulator that only deals with the actions of one person (in 400Billion systems)
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