No Single Player offline Mode then?

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How efficient would it be to now have to ramp up manufacturing to create Game Discs and distribute all over, to the (marketing wise) small percentage of players who would be playing offline.

But they soon have to make physical disks anyway as many KS backer tiers are for physical DRM free disks, certainly the tier I am at gets this. So not delivering disks would mean FD failed to meet deliver their KS rewards and then they get into a another tricky situation.
 
I have wondered myself TBH. However I certainly don't want to disrespect people's individual situations and if they say they need it then I will believe that. To me it isn't a problem, but then I am fortunate to not have any issues that would demand an offline mode. But I do wonder how they were planning on getting the game downloaded - and receiving updates and so on. If it is just because of the quality of their connections then perhaps it won't be so bad if the link is only required for low level requirements such as market data and the like, rather than high bandwidth needs for real time syncing and so on. Maybe it should be tried first before being so vitriolic towards FD. But - I have to admit that it is not my fight so I'll pull my head in at this point and say no more.

EDIT: Hey! What happened? This isn't the thread I responded to. Makes my reply make no sense. Oh well - the wonders of computer "intelligence" I suppose.
 
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So how did this friend intend to download the game on release in order to actually play it offline?

You do know people can move, right? Legs? Laptops? Other places have better connections? Hotels? People working on the road, etc? It's pretty crazy out there when you open those big old blue eyes of yours in the avatar and take a look around. Who knows? They might even be like me and expected their DRM free boxed copy to not be always online and requiring of a login....
 
My gosh people. If you are unhappy/dissatisfied and want a refund, at least let Frontier respond/see what they can do about it first

Why be so hasty?
 

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This news doesn't sadden me because I don't have a stable internet connection, but because I was looking forward to being able to mod the game, having a private galaxy unaffected by all the multiplayer nonsense and, most of all, being able to still play the game twenty years from now.

mod the game ? what's that all about ?! modding is against the law i guess. their game has a copyright ? wth
 
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I backed this game because I expected it to be a modern update to the old one with at least the same features. Looks like I was wrong. The current version is nothing like the old ones, even now the features are lacking depth, it's just a shallow tech demo and last newsletter even mentions features cut off. I couldn't care less about the amount of stars, if the core gameplay is as shallow and repetitive as it is now. It's basically just fly here, fly there, buy random equipment and grind for credits to get bigger more expensive ship and equipment. Or make some basic, shallow, pointless, repetitive mission.

Cutting the offline option out, means that when the last server is offline for good, so is ED. I will wait until the 22 November to decide if I spend another hour with this game.
 
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Some people are posting up as to how they want to be able to play offline completely as they have no access to the internet, not sure that is possible but its seems to be a concern.

Others are stating that their "friends" have bought the game and have zero access to the internet, again not sure how these people ever intended to download the game to play it but maybe they didn't consider this and wanted a hard copy or something.

Others have said they wish to play the game whilst somewhere obscure like taking part in a war...less said about that the better.

Here's an example of how this can be a problem.

I am very fortunate in that I own several houses in many different parts of the world, most of course have Internet and very good quality at that. One place however, has no Internet, no TV, it does not even have sewerage we have a septic tank. It's in the mountains in Europe. We summer there.

It's entirely feasible that I may wish to play ED while there for 2 or 3 months.

I actually don't as we view this as a retreat from the always contactable situation of modern life and we in fact chose it for having no mobile signal or anything like that. But it's just an example of one such scenario that different people face.
 
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mod the game ? what's that all about ? modding is unlawful and very coward. anyways i dont think the previous games where hacked at least after 10 years after their released, so they made them well protected against hacking...

it could be made protected from hacking....
Is this a joke?

Modding a game is a time-honoured tradition to adjust singleplayer games to be more enjoyable for you as an individual. There's nothing wrong and nothing 'coward' about it, you're not affecting anybody negatively through it, and it most definitely isn't illegal.
Hacking a multiplayer game is something completely different.
 
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My gosh people. If you are unhappy/dissatisfied and want a refund, at least let Frontier respond/see what they can do about it first

Why be so hasty?

It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it. A throwaway comment in a newsletter 1 week away from the gamma release that destroys a function many people bought the game specifically for. It's not cool, and it has people justifiably ticked off. And the only word from FD has been Michael way back in the beginning of the thread being a little curt... Or 'Spartan' as I believe the mods prefer it to called...
 
You do know people can move, right? Legs? Laptops? Other places have better connections? Hotels? People working on the road, etc? It's pretty crazy out there when you open those big old blue eyes of yours in the avatar and take a look around. Who knows? They might even be like me and expected their DRM free boxed copy to not be always online and requiring of a login....

Yes i know people can move, but also i know that people are posting comments here stating they have no internet connection, whilst i realise phones etc have not got as stable a connection as other devices i find the concept pretty absurd.

As for boxed versions and no DRM or need to authenticate with an online log in i think this has been the staple of PC gaming for years now and i find the concept of just accepting wholesale piracy a far worse concern than players that for various reasons do not have a decent connection..srry just my opinion.
 
The mews letter does not say offline was cancelled. It says that it will occasionally connect to server.

I interpreted this as changes to the galaxy, big events and such will be available offline so everyone can enjoy them.

At no point in the letter does it say offline is gone.
 
I'm guessing the premium boxed edition will contain a floppy disk sized install burned to a CD then? - or maybe a sheet of paper with code that we can type in ourselves?

Someone at FD really needs to clarify -ASAP- what they actually meant (not in marketing language) about 'off' and 'online' play before the media create something.....
 
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Here's a question though Michael. Since some people where looking forward to an offline mode and pledged money for this, wouldn't a compromise be to (somewhere down the line) provide a scaled down version the server software with a static universe and as few secrets as possible included? I'm quite sure this would seem fair by most backers and would also put to rest any worries about the game being useless if/when the main servers goes offline.

This seems plausible. I can even imagine how I might go about reverse engineering such a thing, given enough time and being able to see the unencrypted network traffic.
 
I'm all about 'Promises can be kept'. But to have two different promises '200 Billion systems', 'Offline mode' doesn't mean you'll get 200 Billion systems on a disc in the local computer / PC game store...

That's another point. If each system requires 1kB data that makes 200.000 GB for 200 billion systems. That's 8000 blue rays or 50000 dvds :D
 
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